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From: Sam Wormley on 27 Feb 2010 20:04 On 2/27/10 6:34 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > Let me get this straight: > Jones, Mann, the CRU, the University of Pennsylvania, Hansen, NASA all > LIED because they knew that there was no global warming for the last 15 > years. > 2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?NewsID=249 By Adam Voiland, NASA's Earth Science News Team "2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis, conducted by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the warmest year since modern records began in 1880. "Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade — due to strong cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean — 2009 saw a return to near-record global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of a degree cooler than 2005, the hottest year on record, and tied with a cluster of other years — 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 — as the second warmest year since recordkeeping began". Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 http://www.globalchange.gov/HighResImages/1-Global-pg-13.jpg http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif And accompanying Sea Level Rise http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png There are many sources of good data http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php Here's some data from Iowa State University http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/faculty/takle/presentations.html More from University of Iowa http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/faculty-staff/profile-directory/cee/schnoor_j.php CLEANTECHNICA: NASA to Earth: Global Warming Is for Real, Folks! NASA is putting its two cents into the global warming conversation with a new Web site that details the climate change phenomenon, including videos, articles and a huge archive of images http://cl.exct.net/?qs=bb493ab0c40160cae3dcdd3f65e9769a9e5d4b1c53f56c4f6b30056f712da911
From: Brad Guth on 27 Feb 2010 23:42 On Feb 27, 5:04 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/27/10 6:34 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > > > Let me get this straight: > > Jones, Mann, the CRU, the University of Pennsylvania, Hansen, NASA all > > LIED because they knew that there was no global warming for the last 15 > > years. > > 2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade > http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?NewsID=249 > > By Adam Voiland, > NASAs Earth Science News Team > > "2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new > NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis, > conducted by NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New > York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the > warmest year since modern records began in 1880. > > "Although 2008 was the coolest year of the decade due to strong > cooling of the tropical Pacific Ocean 2009 saw a return to near-record > global temperatures. The past year was only a fraction of a degree > cooler than 2005, the hottest year on record, and tied with a cluster of > other years 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 as the second warmest > year since recordkeeping began". > > Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 > http://www.globalchange.gov/HighResImages/1-Global-pg-13.jpg > http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm > > Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase > > http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trend... > > And accompanying Sea Level Rise > > http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/0... > > There are many sources of good data > http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ > http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php > > Here's some data from Iowa State University > http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/faculty/takle/presentations.html > > More from University of Iowa > > http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/faculty-staff/profile-directory/cee/... > > CLEANTECHNICA: NASA to Earth: Global Warming Is for Real, Folks! > NASA is putting its two cents into the global warming conversation with > a new Web site that details the climate change phenomenon, including > videos, articles and a huge archive of imageshttp://cl.exct.net/?qs=bb493ab0c40160cae3dcdd3f65e9769a9e5d4b1c53f56c... http://www.disinfo.com/2010/02/massive-iceberg-could-alter-ocean-currents/ It gave it a pretty big nudge, Young said of the 60-mile (97- kilometer) -long iceberg, about the size of Luxembourg, that collided with the giant floating Mertz Glacier and shaved off a new iceberg. They are now floating right next to each other. The new iceberg is 48 miles (78 kilometers) long and about 24 miles (39 kilometers) wide and holds roughly the equivalent of a fifth of the worlds annual total water usage, Young told The Associated Press.
From: Rich on 28 Feb 2010 01:18 Earl Evleth <evleth(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote in news:C7AEA981.1A134E%evleth(a)wanadoo.fr: > On 27/02/10 4:28, in article > WNKdnZi1Fcj2DBXWnZ2dnUVZ_s8AAAAA(a)giganews.com, "Rich" > <none(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >> "You will disregard all data that does not support AGW." > > cite > > Temp check guages that exist near heat sources...AGW'rs kind of ignore that.
From: Rich on 28 Feb 2010 01:19 Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:QcudnS5xJtG4XBTWnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com: > On 2/27/10 6:34 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >> Let me get this straight: >> Jones, Mann, the CRU, the University of Pennsylvania, Hansen, NASA >> all LIED because they knew that there was no global warming for the >> last 15 years. >> > > 2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade > http://climate.nasa.gov/news/index.cfm?NewsID=249 > > By Adam Voiland, > NASA's Earth Science News Team > Raaahhhhh! AGW parrot, AGW parrot, raaaaahhhhh!
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Feb 2010 06:35
On 28/02/10 12:07, in article vfjko517fp7575nskhlik57sd1iko62rv3(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de, "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote: >> You deniers will grab and run with any thing as >> well as make stupid coments > > like claiming an error bar without value. No, I don't think deniers are into "error bars" But in Hansen et al's extensive article http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007_Hansen_etal_2.pdf page 11 talks about a 1�C error in matching paleo temperatures with modern temperatures. From what I read I think this a fair estimate. We only know accurately what has occurred recently. We can identify periods temperature wise approximately. Have you any information on this subject? You strike me as an arm-chair denier and you don't go and look for information, especially if you don't want that information. But it is common sense, proxies are not superaccurate. |