From: Rowland McDonnell on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > > What use was a `help' key back in the ADB days? And what on Earth could
> > > > have the `ins' key have been used for then?
> > >
> > > My ADB keyboard ('AppleDesign Keyboard' model M2980) has one as well.
> >
> > Yeahbut: what for?
>
> Pressing?
>
> No, but seriously, I have no idea. I've wondered the same thing myself
> on occasion.

Oh good.

It's not just me then.

FWIW, while my ADB keyboards are (I think) all stashed in the loft[1],
I've just looked at the printed manual for my Performa 475 (for all
Performas of the time) and the illustration of the ADB keyboard supplied
has so sign of a key marked Help or Ins.

Rowland.

[1] Except for one, which is possibly in an upstairs room and yet less
accessible.

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From: Dr Geoff Hone on
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:07:51 +0000, jim(a)magrathea.plus.com (Jim)
wrote:

>My ADB keyboard ('AppleDesign Keyboard' model M2980) has one as well.
SNAP!
From: Richard Tobin on
In article <1jcxi6o.s7a8e31xrmmalN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>This help/ins thing he's talking about - not on any desktop Mac keyboard
>I have accessible here, and I'm looking at five different generations.

This page shows lots of Apple keyboards. The "Apple Extended Keyboard - 1990"
has a help/ins key.

http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/01/the-evolution-of-apple-design-between-1977-2008/

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From: Tim Streater on
On 26/01/2010 20:13, Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article<1jcxy61.is9qv5ild62qN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
> Rowland McDonnell<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> It wasn't an album cover, it's a famous Magritte painting.
>
>> Looks like it should have been an album cover.
>
> A quick Google suggests that it's one of the few Magritte paintings
> that hasn't been used as an album cover.
>
>> Famous, eh? I suspect
>> more people have heard of Manchester Utd than have heard of Magritte,
>
> I've read that more people go to the opera each week than to football
> matches.

That may be an exaggeration, but plenty of people go. It's probably
cheaper than going to a football match, too. Whenever I went to one at
the Corn Exchange in Cambridge, it was sold out. And tickets were less
than �20. Equally at any other venue, such as the Albert hall to see
Madame Butterfly. 5000 people there for each of the 10 performances.

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From: Tim Streater on
On 26/01/2010 20:08, Woody wrote:
> On 26/01/2010 20:13, Richard Tobin wrote:
>> In
>> article<1jcxy61.is9qv5ild62qN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>,
>>
>> Rowland McDonnell<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> It wasn't an album cover, it's a famous Magritte painting.
>>
>>> Looks like it should have been an album cover.
>>
>> A quick Google suggests that it's one of the few Magritte paintings
>> that hasn't been used as an album cover.
>>
>>> Famous, eh? I suspect
>>> more people have heard of Manchester Utd than have heard of Magritte,
>>
>> I've read that more people go to the opera each week than to football
>> matches.
>
> Seems somehow unlikely. Is that worldwide?
>
> If so, why is the opera subsidised in this country, and football clubs
> raking in large sums of money? Bad management?

Not obvious that it is, except perhaps Covent Garden.

> I hear people talking about football matches at work though, I don't
> recall ever hearing anyone talk about an opera.

You don't talk to enough people then. All sorts of surprising people go
to operas. But I think many people expect that only snobs or toffs go,
and that the tickets cost �200. Me, I go in the hope that one day I'll
come across some snobs or toffs at the opera, but I've been disappointed
for the last 30 years.

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