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From: T i m on 26 Jan 2010 08:04 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:29:33 +1300, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: >> Right, where you describe fn is where I looked first to find it on >> this Apple, long, white / transparent, as_supplied_for_the_Mini >> keyboard and unless my glasses prescription needs to be a lot lot >> different there is no fn key on here (and FWIW there is nothing to the >> left of the Crrl key). ;-( > >The white/transparent keyboards don't have a "fn" key. It was added to >desktop keyboards when Apple introduced the aluminium keyboards in >August 2007. Ok. > >A "fn" key wouldn't serve any useful purpose on the white/transparent >keyboard because it isn't missing any keys, (this one is, I dropped it a while back and the down arrow key jumped off and hid somewhere). ;-( >and doesn't have any special >actions assigned to the numbered function keys. Ok. > >The aluminium keyboards have various things like screen brightness, >volume, iTunes playback control, Expose and Dashboard on some of the >numbered function keys, so "fn" is useful to toggle between the "normal >function key" and "special function" for those keys. So more typical of a laptop then. > >On the small aluminium keyboard (or a laptop), fn is also useful to >generate Forward Delete, Enter (in conjunction with Return), Page >Up/Down (in conjunction with up/down arrow keys) and Home/End (in >conjunction with left/right arrow keys). I never use any of those functions or if I do it's by mistake (so generally need to undo them). > >The "ins" notation probably disappeared somewhere between the 1997 >keyboard I'm looking at and your 2006-ish one. :-) Typical. ;-) Thanks, T i m
From: T i m on 26 Jan 2010 08:10 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:29:33 +1300, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: >> > >> >Except it isn't called Backspace anywhere in Apple's documentation >> >(except for contexts such as Boot Camp), nor on the keyboard legend in >> >any country. But they are referred to 'Backspace' and 'Delete' in the iTunes 'Creating Playlists' tutorial I just watched. ;-) Cheers, T i m
From: Rowland McDonnell on 26 Jan 2010 08:48 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > (David Empson) wrote: [snip] > >The "ins" notation probably disappeared somewhere between the 1997 > >keyboard I'm looking at and your 2006-ish one. :-) > > Typical. ;-) This help/ins thing he's talking about - not on any desktop Mac keyboard I have accessible here, and I'm looking at five different generations. The `help' key really doesn't have `ins' on it, not on any of 'em. I wish I knew where my ADB keyboards were. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Pd on 26 Jan 2010 08:55 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > [1] Who did that album cover with the bloke in the bowler and an Apple > obsuring his face? I was thinking of something similar, with a > different Apple thingy. It wasn't an album cover, it's a famous Magritte painting. -- Pd
From: David Empson on 26 Jan 2010 09:00
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:29:33 +1300, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David > Empson) wrote: > > >> > > >> >Except it isn't called Backspace anywhere in Apple's documentation > >> >(except for contexts such as Boot Camp), nor on the keyboard legend in > >> >any country. > > > But they are referred to 'Backspace' and 'Delete' in the iTunes > 'Creating Playlists' tutorial I just watched. ;-) An iTunes tutorial needs to cover Windows as well as Mac users, and Windows users of iTunes will outnumber Mac users of iTunes by a significant degree (at least as far as using iTunes to manage an iPod or iPhone), so it makes sense to use Windows terminology in that context. If it was talking about removing items from playlists (or similar actions) then it doesn't matter what you call the keys - both keys will remove a selected item from a playlist. "Backspace" and "Delete" have meaning to a Windows user, and "Delete" has meaning to a Mac user (who could interpret it as either Delete or Forward Delete - they both work). -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz |