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From: Jim on 26 Jan 2010 09:16 On 2010-01-26, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > >> >The "ins" notation probably disappeared somewhere between the 1997 >> >keyboard I'm looking at and your 2006-ish one. :-) >> >> Typical. ;-) > > This help/ins thing he's talking about - not on any desktop Mac keyboard > I have accessible here, and I'm looking at five different generations. > > The `help' key really doesn't have `ins' on it, not on any of 'em. My made-for-Macs Matias Tactile Pro has an 'ins / help' key. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: Rowland McDonnell on 26 Jan 2010 09:22 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > >> >Except it isn't called Backspace anywhere in Apple's documentation > >> >(except for contexts such as Boot Camp), nor on the keyboard legend in > >> >any country. > > But they are referred to 'Backspace' and 'Delete' in the iTunes > 'Creating Playlists' tutorial I just watched. ;-) And in the Macintosh manual - the one published by Apple. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 26 Jan 2010 09:46 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > >> >The "ins" notation probably disappeared somewhere between the 1997 > >> >keyboard I'm looking at and your 2006-ish one. :-) > >> > >> Typical. ;-) > > > > This help/ins thing he's talking about - not on any desktop Mac keyboard > > I have accessible here, and I'm looking at five different generations. > > > > The `help' key really doesn't have `ins' on it, not on any of 'em. > > My made-for-Macs Matias Tactile Pro has an 'ins / help' key. My made-for-Macs *BY APPLE* keyboards - don't. Not unless there's an ins/help key in addition to the help key that I see above the arrow keys, which I somehow missed when I looked at each one carefully. It's possible I made that error. Given my crapness earlier over the fn key, I really don't think I've cocked up that way a second time... Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Jim on 26 Jan 2010 09:51 On 2010-01-26, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: >> > >> >> >The "ins" notation probably disappeared somewhere between the 1997 >> >> >keyboard I'm looking at and your 2006-ish one. :-) >> >> >> >> Typical. ;-) >> > >> > This help/ins thing he's talking about - not on any desktop Mac keyboard >> > I have accessible here, and I'm looking at five different generations. >> > >> > The `help' key really doesn't have `ins' on it, not on any of 'em. >> >> My made-for-Macs Matias Tactile Pro has an 'ins / help' key. > > My made-for-Macs *BY APPLE* keyboards - don't. > > Not unless there's an ins/help key in addition to the help key that I > see above the arrow keys, which I somehow missed when I looked at each > one carefully. > > It's possible I made that error. > > Given my crapness earlier over the fn key, I really don't think I've > cocked up that way a second time... I'm pretty sure you're correct - I don't think there's a made-by-Apple keyboard with that key. I was just giving an example of a made-for-Apple keyboard. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: Phil Taylor on 26 Jan 2010 10:10
Is there any real use for a forward delete key? - I must confess that I've never used it. I did once write a program that gave you the option of completely reverse editing i.e. when you use the backspace key it not only deletes the character to the right of the insertion point (or the whole selection) but keeps the remaining text to the right fixed and moves the text to the left in to take up the space. Did the same with Cut, Paste and Clear too. It was very useful in its context, which was as an editor for aligned DNA or Protein sequences. If the alignment to the right of the cursor was correct that's exactly what you wanted to happen. Phil Taylor |