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From: Rowland McDonnell on 27 Jan 2010 11:21 Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > >This help/ins thing he's talking about - not on any desktop Mac keyboard > >I have accessible here, and I'm looking at five different generations. > > This page shows lots of Apple keyboards. The "Apple Extended Keyboard - 1990" > has a help/ins key. Some of them do indeed. Strange. > http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/01/the-evolution-of-apple-design-be tween-1977-2008/ It's not on my 1993/94 Performa 475 ADB keyboard... Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 27 Jan 2010 11:26 Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > Woody wrote: > > Richard Tobin wrote: > >> Rowland McDonnell<real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > >> > >>>> It wasn't an album cover, it's a famous Magritte painting. > >> > >>> Looks like it should have been an album cover. > >> > >> A quick Google suggests that it's one of the few Magritte paintings > >> that hasn't been used as an album cover. > >> > >>> Famous, eh? I suspect > >>> more people have heard of Manchester Utd than have heard of Magritte, > >> > >> I've read that more people go to the opera each week than to football > >> matches. > > > > Seems somehow unlikely. Is that worldwide? > > > > If so, why is the opera subsidised in this country, and football clubs > > raking in large sums of money? Bad management? > > Not obvious that it is, except perhaps Covent Garden. I hear a lot about opera needing more subsidy, and how the art form is struggling because of the money side. > > I hear people talking about football matches at work though, I don't > > recall ever hearing anyone talk about an opera. > > You don't talk to enough people then. All sorts of surprising people go > to operas. But I think many people expect that only snobs or toffs go, > and that the tickets cost �200. Plenty of opera tickets *are* that sort of price. Cheap tickets to big productions are not so readily available, or so I keep hearing on the radio. > Me, I go in the hope that one day I'll > come across some snobs or toffs at the opera, but I've been disappointed > for the last 30 years. I've heard a lot of 'em on the radio - snobby toffy types blathering on about the business. I can't /stand/ opera, or the people who make opera. I hear them on the radio enough. And if I hit the button for Radio 3 at the wrong time, I get bloody, bloody opera. Or bloody, bloody jazz. Or some bloody piano. But sometimes, I hear nice music. I got a virginal one morning - couldn't help laughing. Rowland. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Woody on 27 Jan 2010 11:52 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > [snip] > > > I don't talk to people about either football or opera, but through my > > working life I have met a large number of people who talk about and > > presumably at some point go to football matches. Can't avoid them. > > > > I can count on one hand the amount of people who I have ever heard say > > went to operas. > > [snip] > > People talk about footy because refusing to do so marks you out as a > social leper, someone to be ostracised. > > People don't talk about opera because if you do talk about opera, it > marks you out as a social leper, someone to be ostracised. > > Don't you know *anything* about working class culture? Clearly a bit more than you! -- Woody
From: Rowland McDonnell on 27 Jan 2010 18:04 Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > >> I've read that more people go to the opera each week than to football > >> matches. > > >Seems somehow unlikely. Is that worldwide? > > I read it in a newspaper years ago. It's probably false. Perhaps > they measured it in the summer. Which summer? Northern or southern? Finkabahtit. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 28 Jan 2010 07:34
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:03:59 +0000, James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: >As someone who as studied opera from the music analysis perspective, >it's not all bad. Just because it's in italian means nothing - the art >form is actually sophisticated musically. This is true. I'm still not much of a fan, but I'll put up with some singing in order to hear the music and watch the stage. Also, when sung in English (or translated in subtitles) the words are always of such cheesy quality that everyone is better off leaving it in Foreign. Cheers - Jaimie -- My swerver room, my patch panels. By the time they figure out why none of the ports on their floor box work anymore I'll be done, dusted and down the pub with a pint of something brewed with yeast that was smarter than they are. -- Matt S Trout, asr |