Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Ben Dolan on 10 Jul 2008 12:56 Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote: > >> So, the evidence is presented in a very balanced way such that each of > >> us can assess it and go from there, making our own sovereign choice as > >> to whether we accept or reject God's existence. Gordon > > > >I call bullshit, Gordon. Evidence is by definition transferable. What > >you're talking about isn't evidence, it's wishful thinking. You have > >accepted God's existence not on any evidence, but strictly on a deep > >rooted desire that it be true. Not the same thing at all. > > > Do you truly love your significant other? Do you have any evidence of > the deep running feelings you have for him/her? Is this evidence > transferable? Gordon Do you really have to resort to this old chestnut that has been refuted so many times? Is that the best you can do to defend your boneheaded claims? Of course there's evidence for my deep feelings about my wife, but in case you've forgotten, we were talking about evidence of existence, not evidence of devotion. Not the same thing at all.
From: The Natural Philosopher on 10 Jul 2008 12:56 Ben Dolan wrote: > Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote: > >> For the sake of the argument, contemplate that it may have been >> necessary for Jesus to be transposed into Hell (another level of the >> Multiverse, as posited by Superstring Theory), > > That's one of the most absurd claims I've heard yet. Where exactly in > the Bible does it describe Hell in terms of compactified ten dimensional > space? > You have to go to the Kaballa for that. > >> Of course this could have been accomplished in any of a number of >> ways, but what is wrong with the way God chose to do it? > > Because God is nothing but a product of human imagination, borne of > Bronze Age superstitions and ignorance, that's why. I think thats a BIT strong..it might apply to the creationists and their god, but the bronze age peoples were a bit smarter than that.
From: Linda Fox on 10 Jul 2008 13:47 On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > >The Atonement of Christ did not happen on the cross. It happened in >the Garden of Gethsemane. Oh, bloody Mary mother of dog! Is THAT what they are teaching in your church? I'd stop going there if I were you. It goes completely against all Christian doctrine. But then I'm beginning to suspect that you're not a real Christian at all Linda ff
From: Antares 531 on 10 Jul 2008 14:18 On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:56:23 -0700, ben_dolan_III(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: >Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote: > >> >> So, the evidence is presented in a very balanced way such that each of >> >> us can assess it and go from there, making our own sovereign choice as >> >> to whether we accept or reject God's existence. Gordon >> > >> >I call bullshit, Gordon. Evidence is by definition transferable. What >> >you're talking about isn't evidence, it's wishful thinking. You have >> >accepted God's existence not on any evidence, but strictly on a deep >> >rooted desire that it be true. Not the same thing at all. >> > >> Do you truly love your significant other? Do you have any evidence of >> the deep running feelings you have for him/her? Is this evidence >> transferable? Gordon > >Do you really have to resort to this old chestnut that has been refuted >so many times? Is that the best you can do to defend your boneheaded >claims? > >Of course there's evidence for my deep feelings about my wife, but in >case you've forgotten, we were talking about evidence of existence, not >evidence of devotion. Not the same thing at all. > Is it insecurity that has flipped you into such a rage, or is that just your basic nature? Transferable in both cases? That was the question. Is all evidence transferable? Gordon
From: The Natural Philosopher on 10 Jul 2008 15:56
Linda Fox wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> > wrote: >> The Atonement of Christ did not happen on the cross. It happened in >> the Garden of Gethsemane. > > Oh, bloody Mary mother of dog! Is THAT what they are teaching in your > church? I'd stop going there if I were you. It goes completely against > all Christian doctrine. But then I'm beginning to suspect that you're > not a real Christian at all > Allegedly he's a mormon. The guys that built Las Vegas , with govt money.. > Linda ff |