Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 11 Jul 2008 00:35 On Jul 10, 8:51�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:1b629e70-db18-4208-a3da-4381dcebabb4(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 8, 8:45?pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > > > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > There were some atheists who said Harry Potter went on the train from > > > London to wizard's school. > > > And once again, child, you have confused fiction with reality... > > Harry Potter is fiction. �The woman who wrote the books said it was > fiction. �I know this may come as a shock to atheists. > =================================== > > The bible is also fiction. We don't even know who wrote it. > I know this may come as a shock to christians. > Get over it. > > Smiler, > The godless one > a.a.# 2275 No, Smiler, the Bible tells about the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel. Didn't we discuss this before. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 11 Jul 2008 01:17 On Jul 10, 9:32�pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > All schools are subject to laws passed by this atheist controlled > > government, not just public schools. > > Ah, a conspiracy nut as well as a religious nut. Goes together like milk > and cookies... > > Perhaps you'd prefer children be educated in madrassas, eh? The only > text book being the bible or the koran or some other fuckin' load of > superstitious garbage? Is that what you want from your school system? I am out of the school system. I was thankful to be out of it. Robert B. Winn
From: The Natural Philosopher on 11 Jul 2008 04:41 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 10, 5:20�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >> Alex W. wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59(a)s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all. >> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the >> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying to >> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in. >> >> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe, >> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal >> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to think. >> >> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to maintain >> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason. >> >> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events moved >> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the >> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty >> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned out >> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and >> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all. >> >> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith, >> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not a >> Good Thing for people and civilisations. >> >> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of >> necessity be true. >> >> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the Force >> of Gravity. >> >> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no >> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that has >> pragmatic use will do. >> >> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense. >> >> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the >> useless, long past its sell-by date. >> >> >> >> >> >>> ========== >>> ..... other than get on with our lives ....- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no > problem with that. > Robert B. Winn And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted?
From: The Natural Philosopher on 11 Jul 2008 04:43 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 10, 5:23�am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 9, 7:06 am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> People who get heatstroke usually die fairly soon. >>>> You clearly know as much about medicine as you do about Biblical history. >>>> That's not a compliment, by the way. >>> Well, you obviously do not know what heat stroke is. �A person with >>> heatstroke is almost dead. �You are thinking of heat exhaustion. >> I know exactly what heatstroke is, you berk. I wouldn't have made my >> comment if I didn't. >> >> Your claim that sufferers "usually die fairly soon" �is completely >> incorrect. It is potentially fatal, particularly in the weak, if >> untreated, but the simple fact is that most sufferers manage a complete >> recovery after treatment. >> >> TLA > > Heatstroke is caused by the brain shutting down from being > overheated. A person with heatstroke is unconscious, their body is > red and overheated, their brain is failing because of heat. A medical > doctor who taught a mine safety class I was in said that heatstroke is > fatal more than half of the time. Yes, but it doesn't mention heatstroke in the Bible, so he could not possibly have known that was a True Fact, could he? > Robert B. Winn
From: The Natural Philosopher on 11 Jul 2008 04:44
rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 10, 12:56�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >> Linda Fox wrote: >>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>> wrote: >>>> The Atonement of Christ did not happen on the cross. �It happened in >>>> the Garden of Gethsemane. � >>> Oh, bloody Mary mother of dog! Is THAT what they are teaching in your >>> church? I'd stop going there if I were you. It goes completely against >>> all Christian doctrine. But then I'm beginning to suspect that you're >>> not a real Christian at all >> Allegedly he's a mormon. The guys that built Las Vegas , with govt money.. >> >> >> >>> Linda ff- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > I have never been to Las Vegas. Anyway, Las Vegas was built by > organized crime and Howard Hughes. Check your facts. > Robert B. Winn |