Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 9 Jul 2008 21:10 On Jul 8, 2:42 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Jul 8, 10:15 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 7, 4:31�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > > > > hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Since we know that when human die, every thing is gone. > > > > The body decays and the consciousness disappear too. Nothing, except > > > > memory and children, stay. > > > > This is the human cycle and you are blind to it? > > > > As I have said before, lots of human like you are greedy, they want to > > > > be eternal. But an imaginary eternal heaven is for their god/gods, and > > > > not for human. > > > > Why are you always wanting to equate heaven for human, when it is > > > > supposed to be the home for god/gods? What sane sense do you have? > > > > The point is, that people who have nothing to lose except their lives, > > > are not controllable politically. If you give them something to lose > > > beyond that - their immortal souls - and tell them if they go against > > > the particular political institution you put in place to control them as > > > slaves - the church, they will lose even that, �then they may just be > > > stupid enough to go along with the fiction. > > > > Christianity offers two things to slaves: It makes them feel self > > > important, and it tells them that if they are good little slaves, they > > > will be equal to the highest in the land - possibly more than equal. > > > > Cui Bono? > > > > The slavemasters and priests, of course. > > > > Robbo is just a good little member of the Church of Latter Day Slaves, > > > that's all. > > > > The thought that he is an unimportant person, and will always be that > > > way, and that no one, not even God, actually gives a toss about him, and > > > once he is dead they will care even less, is so unappealing to his ego, > > > that he cannot bear to even consider the possibility it is true. It > > > takes great courage to be an Atheist, courage and humility. Robbo has > > > neither. > > > > All he has is his Faith. Remove that and he has nothing. > > > Well, atheism has nothing to offer. > > Robert B. Winn > > Except for freedom from the bullshit. > And that really does free your mind. > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 9 Jul 2008 21:13 On Jul 8, 6:24�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "Enkidu" <fox_rgf...(a)trashmail.net> wrote in message > > news:Xns9AD5712078748255229(a)130.133.1.4... > > > "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote innews:pklck5-ofd.ln1(a)75-104- > > 203-5.cust.wildblue.net: > > >> But no matter how big a fraction of c you're moving away from me, any > >> light you emit in my direction is traveling at c. Even we're both > > moving > >> away from each other at a healthy fraction of c, the light we emit is > >> going to be moving at c when we (or anybody else) measures it. > > > Think about it in a different way, say throwing mables off a train at > > pedestrians. If the train has a velicity of 10 m/s, and you can throw the > > .01 kg marbles at 5 m/s, the marbles would hit pedestrians ahead of the > > train with a kinetic energy of 1.125 kgm^2/s^2. Marbles thrown at > > pedestrians behind the train would have a kinetic energy of > > 0.125 kgm^2/s^2. > > I'm not certain of this, but if you throw the marble forwards (wrt the > direction of the train) it's initial velocity (wrt the ground) will be +10 + > 5 m/s =15 m/s forwards. If you throw the marble backwards (wrt the direction > of the train) it's initial velocity (wrt the ground) will be +10 - 5 m/s =5 > m/s forwards. Therefore no marble could ever hit a pedestrian who was > *behind* the train at the moment you threw it (ignoring ricochet, etc.), > given those parameters. To hit a pedestrian behind the train wouldn't you > have to throw the marble (backwards) with a velocity greater than the > train's forward speed. > > Smiler, > The godless one > a.a.# 2279 If you are talking about marbles, what you say is true. If you are talking about photons, it is not true. Robert B. Winn
From: Smiler on 9 Jul 2008 20:48 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6dhhi9F2kfs0U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message > news:YJAck.156910$P83.52298(a)newsfe20.ams2... >> >> "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:6d934qF1eu8nU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message >>> news:m6zbk.192976$NN3.170950(a)newsfe08.ams2... >>>> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>> news:211e4c29-e783-4569-b7f9- >>> >>>> >>>> Well, his sheep know his voice. Atheists do not. >>>> ---------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Jesus loves ewe! >>>> >>> >>> Jesus was Welsh? >>> >> >> More likely, from Norfolk ;-) > > Stephen Fry is God? > :-) > Well, his 'family' did, at one time, make nice chocolate. Makes them worthy of veneration, even if not full blown worship :-) Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 9 Jul 2008 20:50 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6dh43uF2imt7U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message > news:cGAck.156804$P83.5296(a)newsfe20.ams2... >> >> <hhyapster(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:dbabcb9c-30c0-42d3-8049-c0969a9227ce(a)t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > >>> However, I must admit my leg is getting tired, for his insanity. >> >> <tasteless> >> Borrow one of Linda McCartney's spares. >> </tasteless> > > Not Linda, Heather. > And she's an ex. > Wooops! Hey, Linda's dead. She won't miss a leg or two :-) Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Steve O on 9 Jul 2008 22:31
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:db1c5671-b400-4028-8821- >> >> IME, children are naturally credulous. �We pick explanations that fit the >> available facts. �If our environment acts as if Santa Claus is real and >> we >> have no evidence to doubt that assertion, we believe.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Or, like Steve O's little boy, if the parents say there is no God, > they try to believe what they hear their parents say. > Robert B. Winn You obviously weren't listening. I haven't told him there is no God. I'm sure, like his sister, he can make his own mind up later on that. I just hope I can equip him with the critical thinking skills required to come to that decision. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence |