Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: hhyapster on 9 Jul 2008 23:56 On Jul 9, 10:55 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...(a)swbell.net> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:31:58 -0700, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) > wrote: > > >rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > >> You atheists do not hesitate to portray youraelves as experts > >> concerning what Christians believe. > > >That's because you Christards are always blathering on about what you > >believe--without, of course, providing any evidence to support your > >ridiculous, puerile claims. > > An abundance of evidence exists, but it isn't transferable. Each of us > has to do our own sleuthing. No one can be your deputy in these > matters, and supply you with empirical evidence or objective proof. > You'll have to do your own searching and make your own decisions. If > the evidence was transferable no one would have a sovereign choice, > and having a sovereign choice is an absolute requirement. > > So, the evidence is presented in a very balanced way such that each of > us can assess it and go from there, making our own sovereign choice as > to whether we accept or reject God's existence. Gordon So, you are saying that evidence is personal thing? Then why do you claim that evidence show that there is a god, to the public? And we can't examine a public evidence, you are saying? By this contention, how do you want to spread your preaching when the evidence are personal?
From: Chris Shore on 10 Jul 2008 05:46 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:9be8380a-3a4f-4748-9f03-c7f57bedd527(a)t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >Well, according to the Bible, natural events are controlled by humans >on the earth. If the people obey God's commandments, they prosper in >the land, the elements are tempered in their favor, and their lives >are safe an protected by heaven. This does not happen very often. > We know that in the last days, wickedness on earth will be greater >than at any other time in the history of earth. So we cannot expect >favorable conditions. > The choice to have things this way was not God's. It was made >by men who reject God. If the people in Noah's day had listened to >Noah, there would have been no flood. So how do you figure it was >God's faullt? Because the Bible clearly states that God made the flood happen. As I see it, he was perfectly free to choose not to do so. Chris
From: rbwinn on 10 Jul 2008 06:34 On Jul 8, 7:27�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:01:26 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles. > > >Maybe. �However, the fact remains that the equations I have show light > >to be traveling at 186,000 miles per second in two different frames of > >reference without the distance contraction that causes anything that > >reaches the speed of light to have a length of 0 in the Lorentz > >equations. �Scientists definitely do not want to discuss those > >equations. > >Robert B. Winn > > You'd better not let that sense of superiority go to head. There definitely is an advantage in having distances as they actually exist. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 10 Jul 2008 06:38 On Jul 8, 7:39 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:cdf6123f-ed9d-42b7-899e-c9120de9d5f1(a)j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jul 7, 7:35 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:b32c04a0-56aa-474b-a1e5-34a5ee711b06(a)x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > On Jul 7, 3:37�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:db983fc6-d541-4907-ba1e-103490e27a51(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> > It cannot be done. �I talk to scientists in sci.physics.relativity. > >> >> > That is all I am ever going to do. > >> >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> >> I have a sneaking suspicion that they never talk to you. > >> >> Rather like your relationship with God. > > >> >> -- > >> >> Steve O > >> > At one time when I was making mistakes, about half of the posts in > >> > sci.physics.relativity were directed to me. Since I arrived at > >> > equations that hold together, scientists do not post to me. > >> > Robert B. Winn > > >> Nah, they just gave up and killfiled you, I expect > > >> -- > >> Steve O > > > No, I think they just avoid talking to me now that I have the > > equations figured out. > > Robert B. Winn > > Let me know when the Nobel Prize arrives. > > -- > Steve O > a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) > B.A.A.W.A. > Convicted by Earthquack > Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I have no interest in dynamite. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 10 Jul 2008 06:39
On Jul 8, 8:31�pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > Why do you ask? �You have already said you deny God, you deny Jesus > > Christ, and you worship Ho whack. > > So how is it any of your business what I know or what I do? > > Ooh! Ooh! I know the answer! > > Because you're an insufferable Christard who posts in alt.atheism? I don't post in alt.atheism. I am posting in sci.physics. If you do not want to read my posts, take sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity out of the header. Robert B. Winn |