Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 12 Jul 2008 08:42 On Jul 11, 3:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 11, 1:43 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 10, 5:23�am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 9, 7:06 am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> People who get heatstroke usually die fairly soon. > >>>>>> You clearly know as much about medicine as you do about Biblical history. > >>>>>> That's not a compliment, by the way. > >>>>> Well, you obviously do not know what heat stroke is. �A person with > >>>>> heatstroke is almost dead. �You are thinking of heat exhaustion. > >>>> I know exactly what heatstroke is, you berk. I wouldn't have made my > >>>> comment if I didn't. > >>>> Your claim that sufferers "usually die fairly soon" �is completely > >>>> incorrect. It is potentially fatal, particularly in the weak, if > >>>> untreated, but the simple fact is that most sufferers manage a complete > >>>> recovery after treatment. > >>>> TLA > >>> Heatstroke is caused by the brain shutting down from being > >>> overheated.  A person with heatstroke is unconscious, their body is > >>> red and overheated, their brain is failing because of heat.  A medical > >>> doctor who taught a mine safety class I was in said that heatstroke is > >>> fatal more than half of the time. > >> Yes, but it doesn't mention heatstroke in the Bible, so he could not > >> possibly have known that was a True Fact, could he? > > > As far as I can tell, you are free to believe whatever you want to > > believe.  Does that seem unfair to you? > > 1/. Tats has notghing to do with what I posted > > 2/. What is 'fair'? > > Well, obviously, you do not think it is fair, so find another atheist to tell you what to do. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 12 Jul 2008 08:43 On Jul 11, 3:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 11, 1:44 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 10, 12:56�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > >>>> Linda Fox wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> The Atonement of Christ did not happen on the cross. �It happened in > >>>>>> the Garden of Gethsemane. � > >>>>> Oh, bloody Mary mother of dog! Is THAT what they are teaching in your > >>>>> church? I'd stop going there if I were you. It goes completely against > >>>>> all Christian doctrine. But then I'm beginning to suspect that you're > >>>>> not a real Christian at all > >>>> Allegedly he's a mormon. The guys that built Las Vegas , with govt money.. > >>>>> Linda ff- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> I have never been to Las Vegas.  Anyway, Las Vegas was built by > >>> organized crime and Howard Hughes. > >> Check your facts. > > > The facts are that Las Vegas was built by organized crime to take > > money away from construction workers who were working on Hoover Dam > > during the Depression. > > Robert B. Winn > > By Mormons?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No, by members of the Cosa Nostra. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 12 Jul 2008 08:50 On Jul 11, 5:04�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:6ebcae55-3c20-4ea3-960e-25f802c31860(a)s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 10, 8:51?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:1b629e70-db18-4208-a3da-4381dcebabb4(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com.... > > On Jul 8, 8:45?pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > There were some atheists who said Harry Potter went on the train from > > > > London to wizard's school. > > > > And once again, child, you have confused fiction with reality... > > > Harry Potter is fiction. ?The woman who wrote the books said it was > > fiction. ?I know this may come as a shock to atheists. > > =================================== > > > The bible is also fiction. We don't even know who wrote it. > > I know this may come as a shock to christians. > > Get over it. > > No, Smiler, the Bible tells about the construction of Hezekiah's > tunnel. � Didn't we discuss this before. > ================================ > And the Harry Potter books tell us about Kings Cross station and London. > Both the Harry Potter books and the bible are fiction. > Get over it. > > Smiler, If you want to believe that the Bible is fiction, it seems to me that you are free to believe that the Bible is fiction. I will tell you what. Why don't you decide for yourself what you believe, and I will decide for myself what I believe? Does this seem unfair to you? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 12 Jul 2008 08:58 On Jul 11, 5:27�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:92e43175-92e7-4532-8620-7601fd789a14(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 10, 9:32?pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > > > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > All schools are subject to laws passed by this atheist controlled > > > government, not just public schools. > > > Ah, a conspiracy nut as well as a religious nut. Goes together like milk > > and cookies... > > > Perhaps you'd prefer children be educated in madrassas, eh? The only > > text book being the bible or the koran or some other fuckin' load of > > superstitious garbage? Is that what you want from your school system? > > I am out of the school system. �I was thankful to be out of it. > =============================== > In your case, it appears to have been a total waste of time and effort on > the part of your teachers. > Fortunately, most children are much more intelligent than you. > > Smiler, Well, that could be. I had to give a speech because I had the best grades in my high school class. I talked about how wonderful college was going to be. Robert B. Winn
From: Free Lunch on 12 Jul 2008 09:10
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:00:13 -0500, Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:31:36 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch(a)nofreelunch.us> >wrote: > >>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:01:56 -0500, Antares 531 >><gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >>>On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:20:31 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch(a)nofreelunch.us> >>>wrote: >>> >(snip >>>> >>>>God made no prophecies. >>>> >>>Indeed He did! God spoke to us through the prophets. Gordon >> >>No evidence supports that proposition. >> >Indeed, an abundance of evidence supports this and no known evidence >falsifies it. How do you explain the consistent fulfillment of >Biblical prophecies if they weren't given to us from God. The stories were not actually valid, testable prophecies. Even the famous prophecy in Isaiah that supposedly predicts Jesus is so vague as to be meaningless, but the one thing that is clear is the name. Of course, Jesus did not have that name. >Can any mere >mortal reliably predict such highly improbable events in advance. Vague prophecies? Sure, anyone can. I can predict disasters and know they will come about. It's even easier if I'm writing after the event took place. |