Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Antares 531 on 11 Jul 2008 20:14 On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:15:05 +0100, "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > >"Antares 531" <gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote in message >news:e0pf749gtttsrk8eso4lqjttd2u7gumuur(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:17:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> >> wrote: >> >>>Antares 531 wrote: >>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:15:08 -0700, ben_dolan_III(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) >>>> wrote: >> (snip) >>>>> >>>> Ben, there is an ABUNDANCE of evidence that God exists, >>> >>>Which God though? >>> >> The One whose prophecies are repeatedly and accurately fulfilled. >> >> http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/prophecy.shtml > >I checked out this link and read the first line, "Unique among all books >ever written, the Bible..." >If the opening line was anything to go by, there wasn't much point in >reading all of the rest. >ALL books are unique... unless it's the same book. >D'oh! > Polycystinea, the main class of radiolarians is "unique" among the creatures of this planet in that it has a siliceous skeletal composition. The Bible is unique among all books in that it is the word of God, revealed to us through the prophets. The fact that the prophetic information is and has been reliably fulfilled makes the Bible different than any other such books. Gordon
From: Antares 531 on 11 Jul 2008 20:23 On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:14:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> wrote: >Antares 531 wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:17:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> >> wrote: >> >>> Antares 531 wrote: >>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:15:08 -0700, ben_dolan_III(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) >>>> wrote: >> (snip) >>>> Ben, there is an ABUNDANCE of evidence that God exists, >>> Which God though? >>> >> The One whose prophecies are repeatedly and accurately fulfilled. > >OH, you mean a SCIENTIST. > >I thought we were talking religion.. > The Word of God is NOT in disagreement with any reliable scientific knowledge. The confusion on this is caused by the way The Word of God was given to humans. The Word of God had to be given to us such that those primitive people could grasp the basic meaning, and also pass the information along from generation to generation among illiterate people, with little drift. Allegories, parables, similes, etc., are the way this was achieved. Also, The Word of God had to be given to those early humans such that they would have the same advantages that we have, today. That is, no favoritism was shown by presenting the information in a form that only a modern scientifically educated person could understand. Gordon
From: Smiler on 11 Jul 2008 20:27 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:92e43175-92e7-4532-8620-7601fd789a14(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 10, 9:32?pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > All schools are subject to laws passed by this atheist controlled > > government, not just public schools. > > Ah, a conspiracy nut as well as a religious nut. Goes together like milk > and cookies... > > Perhaps you'd prefer children be educated in madrassas, eh? The only > text book being the bible or the koran or some other fuckin' load of > superstitious garbage? Is that what you want from your school system? I am out of the school system. I was thankful to be out of it. =============================== In your case, it appears to have been a total waste of time and effort on the part of your teachers. Fortunately, most children are much more intelligent than you. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 11 Jul 2008 20:33 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6dpg30F3obruU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote in message > news:6dpb2pF3pfehU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> >> <hhyapster(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:423233e8-bce0-4c74-a4e4-a131f86ed4be(a)m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jul 11, 7:04 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>> On Jul 9, 7:31 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>>> > news:db1c5671-b400-4028-8821- >>>> >>>> > >> IME, children are naturally credulous. ?We pick explanations that >>>> > >> fit the >>>> > >> available facts. ?If our environment acts as if Santa Claus is >>>> > >> real and >>>> > >> we >>>> > >> have no evidence to doubt that assertion, we believe.- Hide quoted >>>> > >> text - >>>> >>>> > >> - Show quoted text - >>>> >>>> > > Or, like Steve O's little boy, if the parents say there is no God, >>>> > > they try to believe what they hear their parents say. >>>> > > Robert B. Winn >>>> >>>> > You obviously weren't listening. >>>> > I haven't told him there is no God. >>>> > I'm sure, like his sister, he can make his own mind up later on that. >>>> > I just hope I can equip him with the critical thinking skills >>>> > required to >>>> > come to that decision. >>>> >>>> > -- >>>> > Steve O >>>> >>>> So you are saying that you son does not know you are an atheist. >>>> That is certainly very open minded. >>>> Robert B. Winn >> >> You just don't listen. >> My son is two years old- he doesn't know what an atheist is. >> His sister who is 9, understands, and considers herself to be an atheist. > > How horrible for you.. I can see it now -- sprog hits puberty and teenage > rebel phase, refuses to wear makeup, won't shag pimply boyfriend or get a > tattoo, and declares her firm intention to enter a convent over Friday > fish.... At least he won't have to listen to rap 'music' played at full volume! Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 11 Jul 2008 20:38
<hhyapster(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:47fa9992-3856-4830-abb0-09a44e3672ce(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 11, 1:47 am, Linda Fox <linda...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >The Atonement of Christ did not happen on the cross. It happened in >> >the Garden of Gethsemane. >> >> Oh, bloody Mary mother of dog! Is THAT what they are teaching in your >> church? I'd stop going there if I were you. It goes completely against >> all Christian doctrine. But then I'm beginning to suspect that you're >> not a real Christian at all >> >> Linda ff > > What is what now? > But can you say that rbwinn is not smart? He is trying to teach > physics formula here in the public forum....the Lorz Equation, with > his high school education..... He certainly is trying. Very trying. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279 |