Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Mitch Raemsch on 11 Jul 2008 17:13 "I want to know how God created this world. I want to know His thoughts. All the rest are just details." Albert Einstein
From: John Baker on 11 Jul 2008 12:18 On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:51:16 +0100, "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > >"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message >news:e730cc99-4f9a-47c2-a0e9-5a0b9903b552(a)y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> Your two year old child is trying to be like you. Didn't you say that >> you were an atheist? >> Robert B. Winn > >What is it about the outward appearance and behaviour of an atheist which >you imagine is noticeable or copyable for a two year old? Other than the horns and tails Christians seem to think we have.... <G> > > >
From: The Natural Philosopher on 11 Jul 2008 18:16 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 11, 1:43 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 10, 5:23�am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 9, 7:06 am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> People who get heatstroke usually die fairly soon. >>>>>> You clearly know as much about medicine as you do about Biblical history. >>>>>> That's not a compliment, by the way. >>>>> Well, you obviously do not know what heat stroke is. �A person with >>>>> heatstroke is almost dead. �You are thinking of heat exhaustion. >>>> I know exactly what heatstroke is, you berk. I wouldn't have made my >>>> comment if I didn't. >>>> Your claim that sufferers "usually die fairly soon" �is completely >>>> incorrect. It is potentially fatal, particularly in the weak, if >>>> untreated, but the simple fact is that most sufferers manage a complete >>>> recovery after treatment. >>>> TLA >>> Heatstroke is caused by the brain shutting down from being >>> overheated. A person with heatstroke is unconscious, their body is >>> red and overheated, their brain is failing because of heat. A medical >>> doctor who taught a mine safety class I was in said that heatstroke is >>> fatal more than half of the time. >> Yes, but it doesn't mention heatstroke in the Bible, so he could not >> possibly have known that was a True Fact, could he? >> >> > As far as I can tell, you are free to believe whatever you want to > believe. Does that seem unfair to you? 1/. Tats has notghing to do with what I posted 2/. What is 'fair'? > Robert B. Winn >
From: The Natural Philosopher on 11 Jul 2008 18:16 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 11, 1:44 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 10, 12:56�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>> Linda Fox wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> The Atonement of Christ did not happen on the cross. �It happened in >>>>>> the Garden of Gethsemane. � >>>>> Oh, bloody Mary mother of dog! Is THAT what they are teaching in your >>>>> church? I'd stop going there if I were you. It goes completely against >>>>> all Christian doctrine. But then I'm beginning to suspect that you're >>>>> not a real Christian at all >>>> Allegedly he's a mormon. The guys that built Las Vegas , with govt money.. >>>>> Linda ff- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> I have never been to Las Vegas. Anyway, Las Vegas was built by >>> organized crime and Howard Hughes. >> Check your facts. >> >> > The facts are that Las Vegas was built by organized crime to take > money away from construction workers who were working on Hoover Dam > during the Depression. > Robert B. Winn By Mormons?
From: The Natural Philosopher on 11 Jul 2008 18:17
Antares 531 wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:15:08 -0700, ben_dolan_III(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) > wrote: > >> Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE(a)swbell.net> wrote: >> >>>>> When I lived in Florida a few years back, I arrived home one evening >>>>> just after sundown and saw a very large alligator slithering across >>>>> our front lawn. I was afraid to get close to the beast but after it >>>>> began moving away I parked the car and went inside to tell my wife >>>>> about this alligator. >>>>> >>>>> We both came back out to look at the beast but it was gone and we >>>>> could find no trace of it. I had ample "evidence" that an alligator >>>>> had slithered across our front lawn, but I could not transfer this >>>>> evidence. My wife could either reject my claim or accept it on faith. >>>>> >>>> As you said, a claim, but not evidence. >>>> >>> There was evidence for me, but no transferable evidence. My point was >>> that there can be, and often is evidence that isn't transferable. >> But there's plenty of evidence that alligators live in Florida, isn't >> there? So your claim is completely reasonable based on considerable >> supporting evidence. If your claim was that the baby Jesus had slithered >> across your front lawn, then that would be a different matter >> altogether, now wouldn't it? Believing you saw an alligator on your >> lawn isn't purely a matter of faith, but believing you saw Jesus would >> be (and Florida being a hotbed of religulous nutcases, I'm sure someone >> has made such a claim at some point.) Do you understand the difference? >> >> Give it a rest, Gordon, we've heard this particular line of argument >> countless times before. You're not covering any new ground, and you >> still haven't addressed the basic issue: there is no evidence for the >> existence of supernatural gods of any sort--reptilian or otherwise. >> > Ben, there is an ABUNDANCE of evidence that God exists, Which God though? |