From: rbwinn on 16 Jul 2008 10:20 On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > >>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an > >>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins > >>> because whatever they do is not sin. > >> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is > >> meaningless. In absolute terms. > > > Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12 > > million people. > > As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will > always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog). > > Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the > indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross. > > Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who > seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that > has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes. > > There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that > Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in > both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that > some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or > away from religion. > > TLA So was this John Towland an atheist? Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 16 Jul 2008 10:26 On Jul 15, 9:39 am, Bill <spintro...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 12, 11:32 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 4:14�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > > How about this prophecy? > > >                x'=(x-vt)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) > >                y'=y > >                z'=z > >                t'=t > > Thats actually incorrect. How about that. t'=(t-vx)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2). So why do atheists worship Einstein but insist on absolute time? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 16 Jul 2008 10:29 On Jul 15, 1:07�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:51:36 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> > So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an > >> > atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins > >> > because whatever they do is not sin. > > >> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is > >> meaningless. In absolute terms. > > >Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12 > >million people. > > Stalin was a Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic... Josef Stalin said he was an atheist. So atheists of today claim he was lying about that? Why did he try to end the Russian Orthodox Church if he believed in it? Robert B. Winn
From: Ben Dolan on 16 Jul 2008 10:39 rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > Well, maybe that is why you are here in sci.physics.relativity. What > we talk about here is relativity of time. Is that what you think you're talking about, child?
From: Ben Dolan on 16 Jul 2008 10:39
rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > I am doing very well at talking to atheists. No you're not. Why would you make such a silly claim, child? > As far as I know, there has never been a longer conversation than this one > between atheists and a Christian, two Christians, if you count Gordon. I suppose that's true--if don't read books, that is... |