Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: BuddyThunder on 18 Jul 2008 03:30 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 17, 1:05 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 16, 12:02 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 15, 12:25 am, hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 15, 11:17 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 3:36�pm, cjcountess <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi this is Conrad >>>>>>>> To the three that did respond to my post, all I did is put the >>>>>>>> evidence out there that the structure of the Universe is parallel to >>>>>>>> and resembles the structure of the mind. I am confident enough to let >>>>>>>> the evidence speak for itself and don't have to resort to childish >>>>>>>> insults. Why some want to turn the Google dialogs into the goo goo >>>>>>>> gaga childish dialogs I don't know but it is probably because of >>>>>>>> frustration. >>>>>>>> The evidence speaks for itself and anyone comparing objectively what >>>>>>>> it says to what you say will see which is more correct. >>>>>>>> I don't have to argue this point >>>>>>>> Conrad >>>>>>> Conrad, >>>>>>> Are you any good at math? I am trying to figure out if the >>>>>>> Lorentz equations predict a Doppler effect. The result I keep getting >>>>>>> is that the frequency and wavelength in the moving frame of reference >>>>>>> are the same as the frequency and wavelegth in the frame of reference >>>>>>> at rest. >>>>>>> The reason I ask is because you said you had frequency figured into >>>>>>> your equations. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> No, he has the same level as you...high school standard and never >>>>>> think straight, have lots of day dreaming, and always wishful >>>>>> thinking. >>>>>> But at least i cannot conclude if he is of the same mental problem as >>>>>> you...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> High school graduates are the most open minded people with regard to >>>>> relativity of time. >>>> Possibly because they have among the most limited grasps of the subject >>>> matter.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Well, scientists will promote equations they know cannot be right >>> because they make a lot of money doing it. The only thing that would >>> change the situation would be other scientists with equations that >>> agree more closely with experiment, which is not likely to happen as >>> long as the government is appropriating billions of dollars every year >>> for accellerators, colliders, and other projects relating to the >>> Lorentz equations. >> Yeah, a ton of money in scientific enquiry! All the scientists are >> getting rich off our backs. If you have serious science to do, do it >> seriously. Publish your results in the primary literature, and await >> your Nobel prize. If you're a kook, just keep complaining on usenet. :-)- Hide quoted text - >> > > I am doing it seriously. What matters are the equations, not the > money. Well okay, when you're published, let us know!
From: BuddyThunder on 18 Jul 2008 03:32 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 17, 9:06�am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who >>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've >>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and >>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this >>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more. >>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate >>>> your humanity. >>>> TLA- Hide quoted text - >>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. �Stalin and Pol Pot were >>> both atheists. >> Yes, and the Crusader Popes, and the Bush family, and Hitler, and >> several genocidal factions of the Serbo-Croat wars, and the warring >> factions in Northern Ireland were Christians, mostly (Hitler excepted) >> killing in by they considered to be their version of God's will. We can >> both find examples until the cows come home, and each successive example >> � advances the argument not one jot. >> >> I said it before, and it bears repeating - neither Christian nor atheist >> can claim the moral high ground when it comes to genocide or mass murder >> or war-making. >> >>> But politicians who killed large numbers of people >>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which >>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions. >> You're confusing secular with atheist. You really don't understand what >> "atheist" means, do you? Or rather, you choose not to make the >> distinction between atheist, agnostic, satanist, secular, and so on. >> >> It's either ignorance, wilful stupidity, or trolling, and the jury's out. >> >> TLA > > Atheists are people who believe they are not accountable for their > actions. They believe that the only thing that matters is if they get > away with some particular course of action. They have themselves > convinced that they have succeeded in killing millions of unborn > children per year with no consequences. Stop lying, you silly man!
From: BuddyThunder on 18 Jul 2008 03:33 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 17, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 17, 4:11 am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 15, 6:39�am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>>>>>>>> So are you admitting that you have sins? �This would be a first for an >>>>>>>>> atheist. �All other atheists tell me that they do not have sins >>>>>>>>> because whatever they do is not sin. >>>>>>>> I have what YOU call sins. They aren't, because the concept is >>>>>>>> meaningless. In absolute terms. >>>>>>> Right. �Atheist Josef Stalin said the same thing when he killed 12 >>>>>>> million people. >>>>>> As opposed to Adolf Hitler ("I am now as before a Catholic and will >>>>>> always remain so." - quoted in John Towland's biog). >>>>>> Not to mention several Popes, who were happy to ordain the >>>>>> indiscriminate massacres of Moslems in the name of the Cross. >>>>>> Not to mention the Christian fundamentalist GWB (and his father), who >>>>>> seems happy to go to war against the people of any Moslem country that >>>>>> has the audacity not to kow-tow to his government's wishes. >>>>>> There is no point in claiming that atheism breeds immorality, or that >>>>>> Christianity is the cure, because there are so many counter-examples in >>>>>> both cases that the only conclusion any sensible person can draw is that >>>>>> some people are good, some people are bad, and anyone can be drawn to or >>>>>> away from religion. >>>>>> TLA >>>>> So was this John Towland an atheist? >>>> I have no idea, and it's not relevant anyway. He just wrote a biog of >>>> Hitler. >>>>> Anyway, Hitler was a politician saying what would make him popular >>>>> with the German people. His actions in his life show that he did not >>>>> believe he would be punished for sins, much like atheists of today. >>>> ...and any psychopath with temporal lobe epilepsy or schizophrenia who >>>> believes that massacring groups or whole races is OK, because they've >>>> God on their side. However, the point that you're trying to dodge, and >>>> failing, is that as much evil is done in the name of religion, in this >>>> case Christian religion, as is done by those with none - probably more. >>>> If you don't find that an uncomfortable truth, you need to recalibrate >>>> your humanity. >>>> TLA- Hide quoted text - >>> Well, I don't really see much evidence of it. Stalin and Pol Pot were >>> both atheists. But politicians who killed large numbers of people >>> cannot compare with the numbers of people killed by abortion, which >>> was done by governments controlled by atheistic political factions. >> Your vitriol against atheists is kinda cute in a psycho sort of way. >> Where do I sign up for the genocides? I need to do my atheistic duty. Is >> it the same place Mormons get their brains removed?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > All you have to do is vote for your pro-abortion politicians. That > makes it pretty easy for homicidal people of today, doesn't it? > However, my observation is that the blood of unborn children is not > going to satisfy homicidal people forever. Eventually, they are going > to demand a more active role in homicide. Yeah, we'll start coming after the religious nuts! Woohoo!! *slaver* *drooooool*
From: BuddyThunder on 18 Jul 2008 03:34 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 17, 7:13�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:0463d3f5-d482-449d-adb0-81af090ba244(a)2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... >> >> Miracles are manifestations of higher laws. >> >> ============ >> >> Statistical (im)probability is a higher law? > > Faith is a higher law. What's a "higher law"?
From: hhyapster on 18 Jul 2008 04:48
On Jul 18, 4:51 am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:29:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> >> >Well, choose for yourself what you like or dislike. ?It means nothing > >> >> >to me. ?If you or any other atheist decides to discuss the tunnel, > >> >> >come back and do it some time without trying to change the subject to > >> >> >Harry Potter. > > >> >> Making a comparison between two pieces of literature is hardly > >> >> changing the subject. > > >> >So you think the Bible is like a Harry Potter book. ?What is the point > >> >of discussing it further with you then? > > >> Does this mean you're going to stop posting in alt.atheism? > > >I think it means that you are going to stop posting to sci.physics and > >sci.physics.relativity. > > Admit it, Robert - you can't stay away from atheists. We provide you > with the only enjoyment you have in your life. We are not trying to help him in enjoyment. We are trying to save a human from the dark....but the effort seems to be in vain, probably it is a dark hole. |