Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: DanielSan on 18 Jul 2008 09:21 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 18, 12:29�am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> Smiler wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:ad020ec9-a457-4dae-818d-182301ce08ba(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >>> On Jul 16, 12:01 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 14, 8:01?am, The Loan Arranger <no...(a)nowhere.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> Only an atheist would want all choices made for >>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> Now there was me thinking that that was the mark of a worshipper. It >>>>>>>> seems to me that atheists make their own choices, because they don't >>>>>>>> have decisions ready-dictated to them. >>>>>>> So you think it is a mistake to decide ahead of time not to commit >>>>>>> murder, not to steal, to attend church, not to commit adultery, etc. >>>>>> Why would you be so morally deficient so as to need to perform morning >>>>>> affirmations in order not to kill people? >>>>>> My moral decisions are made as the occasion demands it. Seems to work >>>>>> okay. >>>>> So are you saying that for each person you encounter, you make a >>>>> decision to kill or not to kill? >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> No, I'm saying exactly the opposite. I need not make that decision at >>>> all, because I'm not filled with murderous rage. >>>> As moral decisions need to be made, I make them according to my own >>>> values.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> So you would only decide to kill someone if you were filled with >>> murderous rage. �A lot of serial killers seem to be the same way. >>> ==================================== >>> Most of whom are 'beleivers' in one god or another. >> We've got one on trial over here at the moment. He shot a guy, then >> tried to decapitate two women with a katana. Apparently God told him to >> do it. Hopefully the jury disagrees.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Almost every murderer today says that because they know the atheistic > court system will reward them for saying it. Cite? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
From: Alex W. on 18 Jul 2008 09:39 "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message news:DrRfk.4674$gU4.3099(a)newsfe09.ams2... > > "Ben Dolan" <ben_dolan_III(a)reet.com> wrote in message > news:1ik5w02.g6o20wrzx7npN%ben_dolan_III(a)reet.com... >> rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >>> Europeans are very existential. >> >> How do you manage to tie your shoes, child? > > Slip-ons, velcro or his mother ties the laces. > I want to know how he can tell which one goes on which foot. Aren't infant shoes ambipedal?
From: Ben Dolan on 18 Jul 2008 11:44 DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > During my lifetime the Supreme Court has not made even one decision > > that did not promote atheism. It does not matter if they all claim to > > be religious. Actions speak louder than words. > > Perhaps you can name me one decision that "promoted atheism". Indeed. Facts speak louder than bullshit...
From: Ben Dolan on 18 Jul 2008 11:44 rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > Well, flooding does seem possible. Ask some of the people in Cedar > Rapids if they believe floods are possible. That's adorable! The child is using "analogy" to try to prove the Biblical flood really happened! That's just so damned cute!
From: Ben Dolan on 18 Jul 2008 11:44
BuddyThunder <nospam(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > I am doing it seriously. What matters are the equations, not the > > money. > > Well okay, when you're published, let us know! You know, I've been reading Bobby's ardent defense of his "equations" year after year. It really is quite bizarre. This week's podcast of This American Life contains a segment which is eerily similar. A man, high school educated, working as an electrician, with no physics education concluded that "E = mc squared" was false. He quit his job and spent a year working on his theory, believing with every fiber of his being that he had found a mistake which every physicist (including Einstein) had missed. Of course, it turned out the guy was completely off base, making mistakes a first year physics student wouldn't. But when that was pointed out to him (for example, that the units in his calculations don't match), he of course refused to believe it, claiming instead that the physics "elite" were just out to get him. It really was sadly comical. One of the interesting bits that came out of the story is just how many crackpots like this guy are out there. Apparently it has been observed often enough that physicists have numerous stories of encounters with these nutcases, and they always follow the same pattern. They believe they have discovered something everyone else missed, and they completely block out any rebuttal or debunking of their argument. One professor commented that such behavior is usually associated with schizophrenia. Bobby follows this exact same pattern. And of course, schizophrenia has also long been associated with pathological religious beliefs, so in Bobby's case, we have a "twofer"... |