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From: mpc755 on 18 Jul 2010 01:30 On Jul 18, 12:41 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 17, 8:37 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gm > > > chop) and there is no > interference. > > > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > ------------- > > > OK lets suppose that there > > > > 1 is dark matter > > > 2 and matter > > > my question is: > > > > is there > > > *completely empty space* > > > IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO ?? > > > There is no such thing as a void in three dimensional space. > > Space consists of matter and dark matter. > > Matter is compressed dark matter and dark matter is uncompressed > > matter. > > Dark matter can be compressed and it can be displaced. > > ------------------------ > > now i start loosing my patience with you !!! > > WHAT DOES IT MEAN (mr TURKEY...) > THAT SOMETHING (even matter ) CAN BE COMPRESSED ?? > --------------------------- > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/compressed "com·pressed (km-prst) adj. 1. Pressed together or into less volume or space." > ----------------------------- > > > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. > > so it moves!! > Dark matter is displaced by matter. > HOW CAN SOMETHING MOVE IF NOT TO AN EMPTY SPACE ?? > and in orded to move to another plcace that > (say > is occupied by another entity) > > what happen to that other entity?? > The other 'entity' is displaced. > (just a hint for Turkeys that manipulate words instead of thinking > physics !! > the empty space must not be a big one---- > for small entities > it can be a small empty space for small entities !! > even a tiny microcosmically tiny > empty space for microcosm entities ) > > if all our univese was full with matter > again full 100 percent ful > (do you really understnd what does it mean to be 100 persent > full of matter ??? It is more correct to say 100% of space has mass. > do you understand something abot the structure of matter ??)) > it ould be one big > block of matter that nothing can move in it > Matter and dark matter are different states of the same material. > even your fucken Aether must have some empty soace > in order to move this way or another way > if not > what wil happen to your fucken Aether ?? > if it starts to move ??/ > Aether has mass. Aether is displaced by matter. Dark matter and aether are different labels for the same material. > one basic Aether entity will penetrate to another one ??!! > did you hear about the quantum character of our world of matter ?? > can one basic mass penetrate to another basic mass? > (no more collisions in our universe ??) > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein' http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html "Think of waves on the surface of water. Here we can describe two entirely different things. Either we may observe how the undulatory surface forming the boundary between water and air alters in the course of time; or else with the help of small floats, for instance we can observe how the position of the separate particles of water alters in the course of time. If the existence of such floats for tracking the motion of the particles of a fluid were a fundamental impossibility in physics if, in fact, nothing else whatever were observable than the shape of the space occupied by the water as it varies in time, we should have no ground for the assumption that water consists of movable particles. But all the same we could characterise it as a medium." Einstein might as well have been discussing dark matter. Dark matter is aether with mass. "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state." The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the dark matter's state of displacement. The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter. Evidence of dark matter displacement: 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water."
From: mpc755 on 18 Jul 2010 01:35 On Jul 18, 1:00 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 17, 11:59 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > water." > > > The ripple is a gravity wave. > > The ripple is displaced dark matter. > > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > >http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/176487main_hst_dark_ring_2_full.jpg > > > "Although astronomers cannot see dark matter, they can infer its > > existence in galaxy clusters by observing how its gravity bends the > > light of more distant background galaxies, a powerful effect called > > gravitational lensing. The blue streaks near the center of another > > Hubble image of the cluster are the distorted shapes of more distant > > galaxies, whose light was bent and magnified by the powerful gravity > > of Cl 0024+17." > > > Displacement of dark matter by matter causes gravitational lensing. > > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. > > > 'Frictionless supersolid a step closer'http://www.physorg.com/news185201084.html > > > "Superfluidity and superconductivity cause particles to move without > > friction. Koos Gubbels investigated under what conditions such > > particles keep moving endlessly without losing energy, like a swimmer > > who takes one mighty stroke and then keeps gliding forever along the > > swimming pool." > > > In the analogy the swimmer is any body and the water is the dark > > matter. Just as the swimmer displaces the water, whether the swimmer > > is at rest with respect to the water, or not, a body displaces dark > > matter, whether the body is at rest with respect to the dark matter, > > or not. > > > In the analogy the moving swimmer creates a displacement wave in the > > water. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in dark matter. > > > 'On the super-fluid property of the relativistic physical vacuum > > medium and the inertial motion of particles'http://arxiv.org/ftp/gr-qc/papers/0701/0701155.pdf > > > "Abstract: The similarity between the energy spectra of relativistic > > particles and that of quasi-particles in super-conductivity BCS theory > > makes us conjecture that the relativistic physical vacuum medium as > > the ground state of the background field is a super fluid medium, and > > the rest mass of a relativistic particle is like the energy gap of a > > quasi-particle. This conjecture is strongly supported by the results > > of our following investigation: a particle moving through the vacuum > > medium at a speed less than the speed of light in vacuum, though > > interacting with the vacuum medium, never feels friction force and > > thus undergoes a frictionless and inertial motion." > > > A particle in the super fluid medium displaces the super fluid medium, > > whether the particle is at rest with respect to the super fluid > > medium, or not. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in the > > super fluid medium. > > > A particle in dark matter displaces the dark matter, whether the > > particle is at rest with respect to the dark matter, or not. The > > particle could be an individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a > > displacement wave in the dark matter. > > > Dark matter is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing > > gravity as the pressure associated with the dark matter displaced by > > matter, what is being discussed is the dark matter being displaced by > > each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the object. > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > by the double solution theory > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > of an external field acting on the particle." > > > "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present > > theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave > > where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite > > natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always > > be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is > > located." > > > de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave > > and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of > > the wave. > > > In Dark Matter Displacement, the external field is the dark matter. In > > a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of > > the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits > > the available slits. The dark matter displacement wave creates > > interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the > > particle travels. Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the > > associated dark matter displacement wave (i.e. turns the wave into > > chop) and there is no interference. > > > Gravity is pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Gravity flow is its space push to matter from its aether center. > > Mitch Raemsch What you mistake for a 'flow' is the pressure exerted by the displaced dark matter towards the matter. Dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter. Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity. Evidence of dark matter displacement: 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html "The simulations show that when the two clusters smash together, the dark matter falls to the center of the combined cluster and sloshes back out." "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water." A rock creates a ripple by displacing the water in a pond. The two galaxy cluster collision is analogous to a collision between two boats. The two boat collision creates a ripple in the water. The ripple occurs because the boats displace water. The ripple occurs because the galaxy clusters displace dark matter.
From: Y.Porat on 18 Jul 2010 05:30 On Jul 18, 7:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 18, 12:41 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 17, 8:37 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gm > > > chop) and there is no > > interference. > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > > ------------- > > > > OK lets suppose that there > > > > > 1 is dark matter > > > > 2 and matter > > > > my question is: > > > > > is there > > > > *completely empty space* > > > > IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO ?? > > > > There is no such thing as a void in three dimensional space. > > > Space consists of matter and dark matter. > > > Matter is compressed dark matter and dark matter is uncompressed > > > matter. > > > Dark matter can be compressed and it can be displaced. > > > ------------------------ > > > now i start loosing my patience with you !!! > > > WHAT DOES IT MEAN (mr TURKEY...) > > THAT SOMETHING (even matter ) CAN BE COMPRESSED ?? > > --------------------------- > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/compressed > > "com·pressed (km-prst) adj. > 1. Pressed together or into less volume or space." > > > ----------------------------- > > > > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. > > > so it moves!! > > Dark matter is displaced by matter. > > > HOW CAN SOMETHING MOVE IF NOT TO AN EMPTY SPACE ?? > > and in orded to move to another plcace that > > (say > > is occupied by another entity) > > > what happen to that other entity?? > > The other 'entity' is displaced. > > > (just a hint for Turkeys that manipulate words instead of thinking > > physics !! > > the empty space must not be a big one---- > > for small entities > > it can be a small empty space for small entities !! > > even a tiny microcosmically tiny > > empty space for microcosm entities ) > > > if all our univese was full with matter > > again full 100 percent ful > > (do you really understnd what does it mean to be 100 persent > > full of matter ??? > > It is more correct to say 100% of space has mass. > > > do you understand something abot the structure of matter ??)) > > it ould be one big > > block of matter that nothing can move in it > > Matter and dark matter are different states of the same material. > > > even your fucken Aether must have some empty soace > > in order to move this way or another way > > if not > > what wil happen to your fucken Aether ?? > > if it starts to move ??/ > > Aether has mass. Aether is displaced by matter. Dark matter and aether > are different labels for the same material. > > > one basic Aether entity will penetrate to another one ??!! > > did you hear about the quantum character of our world of matter ?? > > can one basic mass penetrate to another basic mass? > > (no more collisions in our universe ??) > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html > > "Think of waves on the surface of water. Here we can describe two > entirely different things. Either we may observe how the undulatory > surface forming the boundary between water and air alters in the > course of time; or else with the help of small floats, for instance we > can observe how the position of the separate particles of water alters > in the course of time. If the existence of such floats for tracking > the motion of the particles of a fluid were a fundamental > impossibility in physics if, in fact, nothing else whatever were > observable than the shape of the space occupied by the water as it > varies in time, we should have no ground for the assumption that water > consists of movable particles. But all the same we could characterise > it as a medium." > > Einstein might as well have been discussing dark matter. Dark matter > is aether with mass. > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... > disregarding the causes which condition its state." > > The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the > matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the > dark matter's state of displacement. The cause which conditions its > state is its displacement by matter. > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > water." ---------------- you go on recycling your ball bogglings!! i expalned to you that a sa of wahter is not the picture of our univesr with it smatter ower universt has nomaterial blocker of the universla mass to prevent it frommoving outside that job of preventing matter to move outside is done by mass itself aether no1 cannjot push aether no 2 unless aether 2 has another free volume to go in if you dont understansd that go dsicuss with someoine else not me !!! no aether or mass can move a Billlionth of a centimeter unles it ahs some free place to move to it cam be compressed as well but being compressed means IT HAS SOME INNER FREE SPACE TO ***MOVE ***IN as a crude example take a sponge a sponge can contract only because it has FREE SPACE INSIDE ITSELF !! water can raise up waives only if it has FREE SPACE **ABOVE THE WATER LEVEL !!! etc etc etc !!! if you dont understand that go discuss with someone else not with me no Hokus Fokus of words salad will change it (aether repalcing matetr mattr replacimg Aether'' you can go on paling chess with yourself but that is nonsens physics hand wavings the only thing that i could agree with you if it was no physical entity can move unless it has a free volume top move in even if it is your fucken ETHER IT CANNOT REPLACE ANOTHER AETHER] UNLESS THAT 'REPLACED AETHER HAS SOME FREE SPACE TO MOVE IN IF IT WAS Aether = Circlons then we haver a start but that is a completely different Opera for instance even the Circlon canot move unless it has some free empty place to move in !! if you dont understand that we have no common base to discuss !! ATB and Bye Y.Porat ------------------------
From: mpc755 on 18 Jul 2010 09:34 On Jul 18, 5:30 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 18, 7:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 18, 12:41 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 17, 8:37 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gm > > > chop) and there is no > > > interference. > > > > > > > Why is a particle always detected exiting a single slit in a double > > > > > > slit experiment? > > > > > > > Because it always exits a single slit. > > > > > > ------------- > > > > > OK lets suppose that there > > > > > > 1 is dark matter > > > > > 2 and matter > > > > > my question is: > > > > > > is there > > > > > *completely empty space* > > > > > IN ADDITION TO THOSE TWO ?? > > > > > There is no such thing as a void in three dimensional space. > > > > Space consists of matter and dark matter. > > > > Matter is compressed dark matter and dark matter is uncompressed > > > > matter. > > > > Dark matter can be compressed and it can be displaced. > > > > ------------------------ > > > > now i start loosing my patience with you !!! > > > > WHAT DOES IT MEAN (mr TURKEY...) > > > THAT SOMETHING (even matter ) CAN BE COMPRESSED ?? > > > --------------------------- > > >http://www.thefreedictionary.com/compressed > > > "com·pressed (km-prst) adj. > > 1. Pressed together or into less volume or space." > > > > ----------------------------- > > > > > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. > > > > so it moves!! > > > Dark matter is displaced by matter. > > > > HOW CAN SOMETHING MOVE IF NOT TO AN EMPTY SPACE ?? > > > and in orded to move to another plcace that > > > (say > > > is occupied by another entity) > > > > what happen to that other entity?? > > > The other 'entity' is displaced. > > > > (just a hint for Turkeys that manipulate words instead of thinking > > > physics !! > > > the empty space must not be a big one---- > > > for small entities > > > it can be a small empty space for small entities !! > > > even a tiny microcosmically tiny > > > empty space for microcosm entities ) > > > > if all our univese was full with matter > > > again full 100 percent ful > > > (do you really understnd what does it mean to be 100 persent > > > full of matter ??? > > > It is more correct to say 100% of space has mass. > > > > do you understand something abot the structure of matter ??)) > > > it ould be one big > > > block of matter that nothing can move in it > > > Matter and dark matter are different states of the same material. > > > > even your fucken Aether must have some empty soace > > > in order to move this way or another way > > > if not > > > what wil happen to your fucken Aether ?? > > > if it starts to move ??/ > > > Aether has mass. Aether is displaced by matter. Dark matter and aether > > are different labels for the same material. > > > > one basic Aether entity will penetrate to another one ??!! > > > did you hear about the quantum character of our world of matter ?? > > > can one basic mass penetrate to another basic mass? > > > (no more collisions in our universe ??) > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html > > > "Think of waves on the surface of water. Here we can describe two > > entirely different things. Either we may observe how the undulatory > > surface forming the boundary between water and air alters in the > > course of time; or else with the help of small floats, for instance we > > can observe how the position of the separate particles of water alters > > in the course of time. If the existence of such floats for tracking > > the motion of the particles of a fluid were a fundamental > > impossibility in physics if, in fact, nothing else whatever were > > observable than the shape of the space occupied by the water as it > > varies in time, we should have no ground for the assumption that water > > consists of movable particles. But all the same we could characterise > > it as a medium." > > > Einstein might as well have been discussing dark matter. Dark matter > > is aether with mass. > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... > > disregarding the causes which condition its state." > > > The state of dark matter as determined by its connections with the > > matter and the state of the dark matter in neighboring places is the > > dark matter's state of displacement. The cause which conditions its > > state is its displacement by matter. > > > Evidence of dark matter displacement: > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > > water." > > ---------------- > you go on recycling your ball bogglings!! > > i expalned to you that a sa of wahter > is not the picture of our univesr with it smatter > ower universt has nomaterial blocker of the > universla mass to prevent it frommoving outside > that job of preventing matter to move outside > is done by mass itself > > aether no1 cannjot push aether no 2 > unless aether 2 has another free volume to go > in > if you dont understansd that go dsicuss with someoine else not me !!! > no aether or mass can move > a Billlionth of a centimeter unles it ahs some free place to move to > > it cam be compressed as well > but being compressed means > IT HAS SOME INNER FREE SPACE TO > ***MOVE ***IN > as a crude example take a sponge > > a sponge can contract > only because it has > FREE SPACE INSIDE ITSELF !! > > water can raise up waives only if it has > FREE SPACE **ABOVE THE WATER LEVEL !!! > etc etc etc !!! > > if you dont understand that go discuss with someone else > not with me > no Hokus Fokus of words salad will change it > > (aether repalcing matetr > mattr replacimg Aether'' > you can go on paling chess with yourself > but that is nonsens physics hand wavings > the only thing that i could agree with you if it was > no physical entity can move > unless it has a free volume top move in > even if it is your fucken ETHER > > IT CANNOT REPLACE ANOTHER AETHER] > > UNLESS THAT 'REPLACED AETHER HAS SOME FREE SPACE TO MOVE IN > > IF IT WAS > > Aether = Circlons then we haver a start > > but that is a completely different Opera > > for instance even the Circlon canot move > unless it has some free empty place > to move in !! > if you dont understand that > we have no common base to discuss !! > ATB > and Bye > Y.Porat > ------------------------ 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water." The ripple is a gravity wave. The ripple is displaced dark matter. Displaced dark matter is denser than dark matter at rest. That does not require space to consist of areas which are a void. Dark matter mass is greater where displaced than at rest.
From: Y.Porat on 18 Jul 2010 11:33
On Jul 18, 3:34 pm, mpc755 <mpc... > > the only thing that i could agree with you if it was > > no physical entity can move > > unless it has a free volume top move in > > even if it is your fucken ETHER > > > IT CANNOT REPLACE ANOTHER AETHER] > > > UNLESS THAT 'REPLACED AETHER HAS SOME FREE SPACE TO MOVE IN > > > IF IT WAS > > > Aether = Circlons then we haver a start > > > but that is a completely different Opera > > > for instance even the Circlon canot move > > unless it has some free empty place > > to move in !! > > if you dont understand that > > we have no common base to discuss !! > > ATB > > and Bye > > Y.Porat > > ------------------------ > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > water." > > The ripple is a gravity wave. > The ripple is displaced dark matter. > Displaced dark matter is denser than dark matter at rest. > That does not require space to consist of areas which are a void. > Dark matter mass is greater where displaced than at rest. =============================================------------------ after you finished your parroting slogans better start thinking!! iow before knowing to run learn firt to crawl i was asking you if there is complete empty space and you dont answers reasonable since you admitetd that dark matter or matter **has mass* you should know and understand a bsic rule in physics that unfortunately is not thought at schools a mass can not do any action if it cant move even a billionth of a nanometer !! if it has no possibility to move one billionth of a manometer ----- --IT CANNOT DO ANY ACTION!! NO MOVEMENT - NO ACTION!! AND ***NO EMPTY SPACE*** FOR IT **EVEN A TINNY EMPTY SPACE**!! - ---IT CANNOT MOVE !! got it?? if not go discuss with someone else not with me BYE Y.Porat -------------------- |