Hackers Catch Prove Global Warming Fraud
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From: rabid_fan on 22 Nov 2009 15:31 On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:49:24 +0000, 7 wrote: > > Physicists in my opinion should be stubbornly dismissive of holowarmers > and robustly defend their science against psuedo scientists and fakers. Physicists, as well as other categories of scientific professionals, should directly educate the public rather than rely upon incompetent and tendentious journalists to disseminate critical information.
From: Sam Wormley on 22 Nov 2009 16:32 Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:41:37 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>> Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and >>> gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and >>> downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and >>> frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies. >>> >>> Jones himself admits that the documents that were downloaded were his! >>> Even as one of his e-mails he describes a "trick" he is using to change >>> the data to support the Anthropogenic global warming lies. Jones boldly >>> excuses this damning evidence by saying that lay people aren't able to >>> understand what he said. >>> >>> This utterly disgraced "university" scrambles to call the hack a >>> "criminal act", but ignore their own FRAUD against humanity. They have >>> NO SHAME. >>> >>> Meanwhile, other conspirators in this global FRAUD are meeting in >>> Copenhagen. Hopefully, the world court will capture them and put them >>> on trial for crimes against humanity and trillion dollar fraud. >>> >>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/ > climategate- >>> how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/ >>> >>> http://www.itproportal.com/security/news/article/2009/11/21/hackers- >>> target-east-anglia-university-debunk-global-warming/ >>> >>> http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRU- > update >> >> Hey Marvin, can you articulate what the documents say? > > Hey Wormley.... > > > You can't reply to the science and you can't deny these frauds lied. > > You backed these frauds and liars because you didn't know science well > enough, and didn't have the moral courage of conviction, to speak the > truth about their lies. That, and you wanted to bask in their "reflected > glory" by nodding your head a lot and mindlessly agreeing with them. > > Now their fraud is exposed, their bogus data manipulation to support > their conclusions is known to the world, and the reflection you share is > their disgrace. > You are out of control, Marvin! Can you articulate what the documents say?
From: Marvin the Martian on 22 Nov 2009 18:47 On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:31:02 +0000, rabid_fan wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:49:24 +0000, 7 wrote: > > >> Physicists in my opinion should be stubbornly dismissive of holowarmers >> and robustly defend their science against psuedo scientists and fakers. > > Physicists, as well as other categories of scientific professionals, > should directly educate the public rather than rely upon incompetent and > tendentious journalists to disseminate critical information. Sadly, the public is stupid, especially when it comes to science. For example, around here only 45% of the high school students are familiar with basic science. No surprise since most public school teachers are pig ignorant about science and teach basic witchcraft in their "science" classes. Once, when I was an TA, I had to "teach" some lower division undergrads how to calculate the electric field on the axis of a loop of charge. I started with a vector integral. They didn't know that. So I tried a vector integral with symmetry to simplify it. They didn't know that. Then I tried a simple symmetry argument. They didn't know that, either. At that point, I knew they were bs-ing me and they were just lazy bastards and bastardettes who expected to be spoon feed some brand of physics lite that didn't make them think, and told them I couldn't explain it to them because they didn't have the background to do the problem. I think Carl Sagan tried to simply physics, but too much of his political bias got in the way. His "nuclear winter" story was pure debunked bullshit and he knew better. He was just trying to scare people. Most popular physics books are not worth reading, and screw people up more than they teach. The reason why journalist do it is because real scientist have too much pride than to sink down to the level of the average scientifically ignorant citizen. There are just some things a real scientist won't do. Now a journalist, on the other hand... And look at how many idiots swallowed the global warming fraud. They STILL cling to it, even though it is a PROVEN fraud. More education, and asking questions, is the answer.
From: Sam Wormley on 22 Nov 2009 20:34 Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:31:02 +0000, rabid_fan wrote: > > Sadly, the public is stupid, especially when it comes to science. > > For example, around here only 45% of the high school students are > familiar with basic science. No surprise since most public school > teachers are pig ignorant about science and teach basic witchcraft in > their "science" classes. > > Once, when I was an TA, I had to "teach" some lower division undergrads > how to calculate the electric field on the axis of a loop of charge. I > started with a vector integral. They didn't know that. So I tried a > vector integral with symmetry to simplify it. They didn't know that. Then > I tried a simple symmetry argument. They didn't know that, either. At > that point, I knew they were bs-ing me and they were just lazy bastards > and bastardettes who expected to be spoon feed some brand of physics lite > that didn't make them think, and told them I couldn't explain it to them > because they didn't have the background to do the problem. > > I think Carl Sagan tried to simply physics, but too much of his political > bias got in the way. His "nuclear winter" story was pure debunked > bullshit and he knew better. He was just trying to scare people. > > Most popular physics books are not worth reading, and screw people up > more than they teach. > > The reason why journalist do it is because real scientist have too much > pride than to sink down to the level of the average scientifically > ignorant citizen. There are just some things a real scientist won't do. > Now a journalist, on the other hand... Can understand the science? Can you understand the science, Marvin? > > And look at how many idiots swallowed the global warming fraud. They > STILL cling to it, even though it is a PROVEN fraud. > > More education, and asking questions, is the answer.
From: jmfbahciv on 23 Nov 2009 07:10
7 wrote: > Marvin the Martian wrote: > >> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:41:37 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>> Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and >>>> gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and >>>> downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and >>>> frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies. >>>> >>>> Jones himself admits that the documents that were downloaded were his! >>>> Even as one of his e-mails he describes a "trick" he is using to change >>>> the data to support the Anthropogenic global warming lies. Jones boldly >>>> excuses this damning evidence by saying that lay people aren't able to >>>> understand what he said. >>>> >>>> This utterly disgraced "university" scrambles to call the hack a >>>> "criminal act", but ignore their own FRAUD against humanity. They have >>>> NO SHAME. >>>> >>>> Meanwhile, other conspirators in this global FRAUD are meeting in >>>> Copenhagen. Hopefully, the world court will capture them and put them >>>> on trial for crimes against humanity and trillion dollar fraud. >>>> >>>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/ >> climategate- >>>> how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/ >>>> >>>> http://www.itproportal.com/security/news/article/2009/11/21/hackers- >>>> target-east-anglia-university-debunk-global-warming/ >>>> >>>> http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRU- >> update >>> >>> Hey Marvin, can you articulate what the documents say? >> Hey Wormley.... >> >> >> You can't reply to the science and you can't deny these frauds lied. >> >> You backed these frauds and liars because you didn't know science well >> enough, and didn't have the moral courage of conviction, to speak the >> truth about their lies. That, and you wanted to bask in their "reflected >> glory" by nodding your head a lot and mindlessly agreeing with them. >> >> Now their fraud is exposed, their bogus data manipulation to support >> their conclusions is known to the world, and the reflection you share is >> their disgrace. > > > Physicists in my opinion should be stubbornly dismissive of holowarmers > and robustly defend their science against psuedo scientists and fakers. They should stop doing their work? Then the holowarmers acheive their goal (which is production prevention). /BAH |