From: Sam Wormley on 25 Nov 2009 21:30 Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:16:54 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:34:24 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Can understand the science? >>>> >>>> Can you understand the science, Marvin? >>> Yes. I explained some of the many reasons why global warming should be >>> obvious bullshit to any real scientist. >>> >>> >> The greenhouse gas effect of CO2, O3, CH4, H2O and N2O have been >> known for a long time. > > And it has been known a long time that of those, only H2O has any > significant greenhouse potential. The others add trivial amounts of > warming. > Concerning Greenhouse Gas Forcing Functions http://www.realclimate.org/images/forcing_1750-2000-toppanel.jpg http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/10/attribution-of-20th-century-climate-change-to-cosub2sub/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greenhouse_Effect.svg
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Nov 2009 22:22 Marvin the Martian wrote: > Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and > gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and > downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and > frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies. > > Jones himself admits that the documents that were downloaded were his! > Even as one of his e-mails he describes a "trick" he is using to change > the data to support the Anthropogenic global warming lies. Jones boldly > excuses this damning evidence by saying that lay people aren't able to > understand what he said. > > This utterly disgraced "university" scrambles to call the hack a > "criminal act", but ignore their own FRAUD against humanity. They have NO > SHAME. > > Meanwhile, other conspirators in this global FRAUD are meeting in > Copenhagen. Hopefully, the world court will capture them and put them on > trial for crimes against humanity and trillion dollar fraud. > > http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate- > how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/ > > http://www.itproportal.com/security/news/article/2009/11/21/hackers- > target-east-anglia-university-debunk-global-warming/ > > http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRU-update Let me put you onto some better data, Marvin. I wouldn't want you to give up on the real data confirming global warming. Cheers! Climate Data http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ Data Sources Filed under: Climate Science â group @ 27 November 2009 This page is a catalogue that will be kept up to date pointing to selected sources of code and data related to climate science. Please keep us informed of any things we might have missed, or any updates to the links that are needed. Climate data (raw) Climate data (processed) Paleo-data Paleo Reconstructions (including code) Large-scale model (Reanalysis) output Large-scale model (GCM) output Model codes (GCMs) Model codes (other) Data Visualisation and Analysis Master Repositories of climate and other Earth Science data Climate data (raw) GHCN v.2 (Global Historical Climate Network: weather station records from around the world, temperature and precipitation) USHCN US. Historical Climate Network (v.1 and v.2) Antarctic weather stations European weather stations (ECA) Satellite feeds (AMSU, SORCE (Solar irradiance), NASA A-train) Tide Gauges (Proudman Oceanographic Lab) World Glacier Monitoring Service Argo float data Climate data (processed) Surface temperature anomalies (GISTEMP, HadCRU, NOAA NCDC) Satellite temperatures (MSU) (UAH, RSS) Sea surface temperatures (Reynolds et al, OI) Stratospheric temperature Sea ice (Cryosphere Today, NSIDC, JAXA, Bremen, Arctic-Roos, DMI) Radiosondes (RAOBCORE, HadAT, U. Wyoming, RATPAC, IUK, Sterin (CDIAC), Angell (CDIAC) ) Cloud and radiation products (ISCCP, CERES-ERBE) Sea level (U. Colorado) Aerosols (AEROCOM, GACP) Greenhouse Gases (AGGI at NOAA, CO2 Mauna Loa, World Data Center for Greenhouse Gases) AHVRR data as used in Steig et al (2009) Snow Cover (Rutgers) GLIMS glacier database Ocean Heat Content(NODC) Paleo-data NOAA Paleoclimate Pangaea GRIP/NGRIP Ice cores (Denmark) GISP2 (note that the age model has been updated) National Geophysical Data Center (NGDC) Paleo Reconstructions (including code) Reconstructions index and data (NOAA) Mann et al (2008) (also here, Mann et al (2009)) Kaufmann et al (2009) Wahl and Ammann (2006) Mann et al (1998/1999) Large-scale model (Reanalysis) output These are weather models which have the real world observations assimilated into the solution to provide a âbest guessâ of the evolution of weather over time (although pre-satellite era estimates (before 1979) are less accurate). ERA40 (1957-2001, from ECMWF) ERA-Interim (1989 â present, ECMWFâs latest project) NCEP (1948-present, NOAA), NCEP-2 MERRA NASA GSFC JRA-25 (1979-2004, Japanese Met. Agency) North American Regional Reanalysis (NARR) Large-scale model (GCM) output These is output from the large scale global models used to assess climate change in the past, and make projections for the future. Some of this output is also available via the Data Visualisation tools linked below. CMIP3 output (~20 models, as used by IPCC AR4) at PCMDI GISS ModelE output (includes AR4 output as well as more specific experiments) GFDL Model output Model codes (GCMs) Downloadable codes for some of the GCMs. GISS ModelE (AR4 version, current snapshot) NCAR CCSM(Version 3.0, CCM3 (older vintage)) EdGCM Windows based version of an older GISS model. Uni. Hamburg (SAM, PUMA and PLASIM) NEMO Ocean Model GFDL Models MIT GCM Model codes (other) This category include links to analysis tools, simpler models or models focussed on more specific issues. Rahmstorf (2007) Sea Level Rise Code ModTran (atmospheric radiation calculations and visualisations) Various climate-related online models (David Archer) CliMT a Python-based software component toolkit Pyclimate Python tools for climate analysis CDAT Tools for analysing climate data in netcdf format (PCMDI) RegEM (Tapio Schneider) Time series analysis (MTM-SVD, SSA-MTM toolkit, Mann and Lees (1996)) Data Visualisation and Analysis These sites include some of the above data (as well as other sources) in an easier to handle form. ClimateExplorer (KNMI) Dapper (PMEL, NOAA) Ingrid (IRI/LDEO Climate data library) Giovanni (GSFC) Wood for Trees: Interactive graphics (temperatures) IPCC Data Visualisations Master Repositories of Climate Data Much bigger indexes of data sources: Global Change Master Directory (GSFC) PAGES data portal NCDC (National Climate Data Center) IPCC Data CRU Data holdings Hadley Centre Observational holdings Comments Off
From: Michael Dobony on 28 Nov 2009 23:08 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:22:37 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote: > Marvin the Martian wrote: >> Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and >> gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and >> downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and >> frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies. >> >> Jones himself admits that the documents that were downloaded were his! >> Even as one of his e-mails he describes a "trick" he is using to change >> the data to support the Anthropogenic global warming lies. Jones boldly >> excuses this damning evidence by saying that lay people aren't able to >> understand what he said. >> >> This utterly disgraced "university" scrambles to call the hack a >> "criminal act", but ignore their own FRAUD against humanity. They have NO >> SHAME. >> >> Meanwhile, other conspirators in this global FRAUD are meeting in >> Copenhagen. Hopefully, the world court will capture them and put them on >> trial for crimes against humanity and trillion dollar fraud. >> >> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate- >> how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/ >> >> http://www.itproportal.com/security/news/article/2009/11/21/hackers- >> target-east-anglia-university-debunk-global-warming/ >> >> http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRU-update > > Let me put you onto some better data, Marvin. I wouldn't want you to > give up on the real data confirming global warming. > > Cheers! > > Climate Data > http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ > http://www.ssmi.com/msu/msu_data_description.html#msu_weighting_functions Very interesting info from strictly a methodology point of view. Why are the polar regions eliminated? Why are there weighted (altered) numbers? There are multiple climate cycles, one at about 400 years and another at a few thousand years. Can you predict the running pace of a person at 40 if you measure them at age 5 and again at 15? NO! That is totally an illegitimate use of statistics. Yet predictions are made off of 30 years of a 400 year cycle? That is an absolute abuse of the use of statistics. Is GW true? I don't know. If it is true, why are the claims made using methods unacceptable to any field of science? Mike D.
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Nov 2009 23:12 Michael Dobony wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:22:37 GMT, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>> Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and >>> gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and >>> downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and >>> frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies. >>> >>> Jones himself admits that the documents that were downloaded were his! >>> Even as one of his e-mails he describes a "trick" he is using to change >>> the data to support the Anthropogenic global warming lies. Jones boldly >>> excuses this damning evidence by saying that lay people aren't able to >>> understand what he said. >>> >>> This utterly disgraced "university" scrambles to call the hack a >>> "criminal act", but ignore their own FRAUD against humanity. They have NO >>> SHAME. >>> >>> Meanwhile, other conspirators in this global FRAUD are meeting in >>> Copenhagen. Hopefully, the world court will capture them and put them on >>> trial for crimes against humanity and trillion dollar fraud. >>> >>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate- >>> how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/ >>> >>> http://www.itproportal.com/security/news/article/2009/11/21/hackers- >>> target-east-anglia-university-debunk-global-warming/ >>> >>> http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRU-update >> Let me put you onto some better data, Marvin. I wouldn't want you to >> give up on the real data confirming global warming. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Climate Data >> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >> > > http://www.ssmi.com/msu/msu_data_description.html#msu_weighting_functions > > Very interesting info from strictly a methodology point of view. Why are > the polar regions eliminated? Why are there weighted (altered) numbers? > There are multiple climate cycles, one at about 400 years and another at a > few thousand years. Can you predict the running pace of a person at 40 if > you measure them at age 5 and again at 15? NO! That is totally an > illegitimate use of statistics. Yet predictions are made off of 30 years of > a 400 year cycle? That is an absolute abuse of the use of statistics. > > Is GW true? I don't know. If it is true, why are the claims made using > methods unacceptable to any field of science? > > Mike D. Your best answers will come from you digging into the data sources and methodology.
From: tunderbar on 29 Nov 2009 00:19
On Nov 28, 9:22 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > Marvin the Martian wrote: > > Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and > > gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and > > downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and > > frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies. > > > Jones himself admits that the documents that were downloaded were his! > > Even as one of his e-mails he describes a "trick" he is using to change > > the data to support the Anthropogenic global warming lies. Jones boldly > > excuses this damning evidence by saying that lay people aren't able to > > understand what he said. > > > This utterly disgraced "university" scrambles to call the hack a > > "criminal act", but ignore their own FRAUD against humanity. They have NO > > SHAME. > > > Meanwhile, other conspirators in this global FRAUD are meeting in > > Copenhagen. Hopefully, the world court will capture them and put them on > > trial for crimes against humanity and trillion dollar fraud. > > >http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate- > > how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/ > > >http://www.itproportal.com/security/news/article/2009/11/21/hackers- > > target-east-anglia-university-debunk-global-warming/ > > >http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRU-u... > > Let me put you onto some better data, Marvin. I wouldn't want you to > give up on the real data confirming global warming. > > Cheers! > > Climate Data > http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ > > Data Sources > Filed under: Climate Science group @ 27 November 2009 > This page is a catalogue that will be kept up to date pointing to selected sources of code > and data related to climate science. Please keep us informed of any things we might have > missed, or any updates to the links that are needed. > > Climate data (raw) > Climate data (processed) > Paleo-data > Paleo Reconstructions (including code) > Large-scale model (Reanalysis) output > Large-scale model (GCM) output > Model codes (GCMs) > Model codes (other) > Data Visualisation and Analysis > Master Repositories of climate and other Earth Science data > Climate data (raw) > > GHCN v.2 (Global Historical Climate Network: weather station records from around the > world, temperature and precipitation) > USHCN US. Historical Climate Network (v.1 and v.2) > Antarctic weather stations > European weather stations (ECA) > Satellite feeds (AMSU, SORCE (Solar irradiance), NASA A-train) > Tide Gauges (Proudman Oceanographic Lab) > World Glacier Monitoring Service > Argo float data > Climate data (processed) > > Surface temperature anomalies (GISTEMP, HadCRU, NOAA NCDC) > Satellite temperatures (MSU) (UAH, RSS) > Sea surface temperatures (Reynolds et al, OI) > Stratospheric temperature > Sea ice (Cryosphere Today, NSIDC, JAXA, Bremen, Arctic-Roos, DMI) > Radiosondes (RAOBCORE, HadAT, U. Wyoming, RATPAC, IUK, Sterin (CDIAC), Angell (CDIAC) ) > Cloud and radiation products (ISCCP, CERES-ERBE) > Sea level (U. Colorado) > Aerosols (AEROCOM, GACP) > Greenhouse Gases (AGGI at NOAA, CO2 Mauna Loa, World Data Center for Greenhouse Gases) > AHVRR data as used in Steig et al (2009) > Snow Cover (Rutgers) > GLIMS glacier database > Ocean Heat Content(NODC) > Paleo-data > > NOAA Paleoclimate > Pangaea > GRIP/NGRIP Ice cores (Denmark) > GISP2 (note that the age model has been updated) > National Geophysical Data Center (NGDC) > Paleo Reconstructions (including code) > > Reconstructions index and data (NOAA) > Mann et al (2008) (also here, Mann et al (2009)) > Kaufmann et al (2009) > Wahl and Ammann (2006) > Mann et al (1998/1999) > Large-scale model (Reanalysis) output > > These are weather models which have the real world observations assimilated into the > solution to provide a best guess of the evolution of weather over time (although > pre-satellite era estimates (before 1979) are less accurate). > > ERA40 (1957-2001, from ECMWF) > ERA-Interim (1989 present, ECMWFs latest project) > NCEP (1948-present, NOAA), NCEP-2 > MERRA NASA GSFC > JRA-25 (1979-2004, Japanese Met. Agency) > North American Regional Reanalysis (NARR) > Large-scale model (GCM) output > > These is output from the large scale global models used to assess climate change in the > past, and make projections for the future. Some of this output is also available via the > Data Visualisation tools linked below. > > CMIP3 output (~20 models, as used by IPCC AR4) at PCMDI > GISS ModelE output (includes AR4 output as well as more specific experiments) > GFDL Model output > Model codes (GCMs) > > Downloadable codes for some of the GCMs. > > GISS ModelE (AR4 version, current snapshot) > NCAR CCSM(Version 3.0, CCM3 (older vintage)) > EdGCM Windows based version of an older GISS model. > Uni. Hamburg (SAM, PUMA and PLASIM) > NEMO Ocean Model > GFDL Models > MIT GCM > Model codes (other) > > This category include links to analysis tools, simpler models or models focussed on more > specific issues. > > Rahmstorf (2007) Sea Level Rise Code > ModTran (atmospheric radiation calculations and visualisations) > Various climate-related online models (David Archer) > CliMT a Python-based software component toolkit > Pyclimate Python tools for climate analysis > CDAT Tools for analysing climate data in netcdf format (PCMDI) > RegEM (Tapio Schneider) > Time series analysis (MTM-SVD, SSA-MTM toolkit, Mann and Lees (1996)) > Data Visualisation and Analysis > > These sites include some of the above data (as well as other sources) in an easier to > handle form. > > ClimateExplorer (KNMI) > Dapper (PMEL, NOAA) > Ingrid (IRI/LDEO Climate data library) > Giovanni (GSFC) > Wood for Trees: Interactive graphics (temperatures) > IPCC Data Visualisations > Master Repositories of Climate Data > > Much bigger indexes of data sources: > > Global Change Master Directory (GSFC) > PAGES data portal > NCDC (National Climate Data Center) > IPCC Data > CRU Data holdings > Hadley Centre Observational holdings > Comments Off idiot |