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From: unsettled on 7 Nov 2006 13:50 T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:hN24h.8332$B31.8212(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > >>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>news:e6db6$4550b23f$49ecf0b$7151(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>news:21f8a$4550ac39$49ecf0b$7036(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>> >>>> >>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:87663$455065eb$4fe724c$5663(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Ken Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In article <92d5d$45506124$4fe724c$5573(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>>>>>>unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>[....] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>The extremists I think we really need to stop appeasing are the >>>>>>>>>>Religious Right and the Republicans who they are currently leading >>>>>>>>>>around by the nose. Tomorrow's our chance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Perhaps you're talking about the people who have and >>>>>>>>>maintain taditional American values. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What traditional American values would these be? There never was a >>>>>>>>golden age. It is a myth we all like to belive but if you look at >>>>>>>>the past you find the horrors of today plus some. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You know, the >>>>>>>>>folks who made America great in the first place! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Read up on Franklin. You will find that he and most of the others >>>>>>>>who made America great in the first place would make the religious >>>>>>>>right blanch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What you've done this morning in two posts is to disclose >>>>>>>the low esteem in which you hold people. You seem to have >>>>>>>some idea that the base element always prevails. >>>>>> >>>>>>Speaking for myself, not at all. I always hold out the hope that >>>>>>people can rise above their basest instincts of hatred and fear. It's >>>>>>just that every few years, we forget to keep a lookout for these >>>>>>things, and they take over. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>The facts are somewhat different. Each human exhibits some >>>>>>>degree of discontinuity in how they conduct their lives. >>>>>>>Franklin did manage to achieve some pretty significant >>>>>>>things, especially for someone whose first calling was >>>>>>>as a tradesman/printer. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uh...that was his point. That, and the fact that Franklin and many of >>>>>>the others who made this country great had no use for your BS about >>>>>>"traditional American values". >>>>> >>>>>It looks like you've once again purposely discounted >>>>>the fact that most humans exhibit discontinuities. >>>> >>>>Not at all. I'm well aware of it. >>>> >>>> >>>>>What >>>>>that means is he didn't always observe the values he >>>>>generally stood for. >>>> >>>>What, exactly, would be your evidence that he "stood for" the same BS >>>>values that you pomp on about? Everything I've read says he was a very >>>>down-to-earth guy. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Your posts continue to reek of hatred for your >>>>>fellow man. >>>> >>>>Not at all. I just the behavior of people that try to act better than >>>>me and tell me how to live my life. >>> >>>Ahhh, now it comes out, the jealousy card. Jumping up and down >>>with your hand in the air yelling "me too me too!" LOL >> >>What the hell are you on about now? > > > Reading this, it seems unsettled has nothing to say in "response" other than > to try and pidgeon hole you into one of his undesirable categories. Each > time you fail to conform to one, another is tried. > > >>>Get over your own insignificance. >> >>The only significance in which I hold myself is that I am capable of >>choosing how to live my own life, and will not allow anyone else to do >>that for me. To quote a wise man, "I yam what I yam." What about you? >>The only person with a lower fact:insult ratio than you in this thread is >>JoeBlow. > > > Even then its a close call. Right on cue, the peanut gallery chimes in.
From: unsettled on 7 Nov 2006 13:52 T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:tb24h.8325$B31.2622(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > >>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>news:60919$4550aa97$49ecf0b$7006(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>You might also want to take a look at a wonderful, >>>now somewhat dated, book _How to win friends and influence >>>people_. >> >>Another irony meter bites the big one. > > > Man, that post wrote off hundreds of irony meters over the world. It was a > big one. > > Just what are you two doing in these two posts?
From: unsettled on 7 Nov 2006 13:53 T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:sK24h.8331$B31.1340(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > >>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>news:ea629$4550b166$49ecf0b$7036(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>news:60919$4550aa97$49ecf0b$7006(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>> >>>> >>>>>You might also want to take a look at a wonderful, >>>>>now somewhat dated, book _How to win friends and influence >>>>>people_. >>>> >>>> >>>>Another irony meter bites the big one. >>> >>>Well *you* would think so. I'm not working >>>hard to convince anyone, but you seem to be. >> >>You really need to stop projecting your needs onto others. All I'm doing >>is pointing out logical inconsistencies in this thread. And there are >>*lots* of them. I don't really care what anyone else thinks. > > > Once more the irony is thick. Unsettled uses little more than ad hominems > and fear mongering bogeyman analogies - these only work if your goal is to > convince others about your own legitimacy and the lack of legitimacy in your > "opponent." > > He then has the cheek to say he isn't trying to convince anyone....... > > Brilliant. > > Still, his first post in this thread was that he had his opinion and was > going to stick to it. At least that much has been true. Just what are you two doing in these psots?
From: unsettled on 7 Nov 2006 13:53 T Wake wrote: > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:BM14h.8314$B31.7002(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:eiq0h1$8qk_012(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>>In article <dGS3h.5355$7F3.3682(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>>"krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >>>>news:MPG.1fb9bd1d862e8abb989ab0(a)news.individual.net... >>>> >>>>>>Dry wood burns very cleanly. >>>>> >>>>>It still stinks to hell. >>>> >>>>Not if you're using a good, modern wood stove, and good dry (particularly >>>>hard) wood. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I burn some in a fairly efficient stove, >>>> >>>>It's not just efficiency, it's also related to pollution control devices. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>but unless there is a wind blowing it's a mess. It stinks if it's >>>>>still, >>>> >>>>Not if you're using a good, modern wood stove, and good dry (particularly >>>>hard) wood. >>> >>>How do you make everybody do this? >> >>Why your desparate need to "make everybody do" things. Why not just let >>them make their own decisions, and you make yours? > > > Interesting observation. /BAH goes on about the problems with despot-led > nations, freedom, democracy etc., yet as you point out here has this almost > constant desire to make every one conform. > > I never noticed it before and I should have - her references to forcing > freedom on people should have alerted me. > > Has doublespeak got to the point where we do indeed force people to freely > choose the thing we want them to choose? > > Just what are you two doing in these posts?
From: unsettled on 7 Nov 2006 13:54
T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:4550AD8B.5A8255F3(a)hotmail.com... > >> >>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>> >>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>"krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >>> >>>>>>but unless there is a wind blowing it's a mess. It stinks if it's >>>>>>still, >>>>> >>>>>Not if you're using a good, modern wood stove, and good dry >>>>>(particularly >>>>>hard) wood. >>>> >>>>How do you make everybody do this? >>> >>>Why your desparate need to "make everybody do" things. Why not just let >>>them make their own decisions, and you make yours? >> >>Since dry wood burns better, it's in ppls' interest anyway. > > > So they will _probably_ do it anyway then? This is (IMHO) significantly > different from making people do it. > > She was talking about enforcing an environmentally sound standard. What are you two doing in these threads? |