From: Ken Smith on
In article <eipsta$8qk_001(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <RRH3h.6197$B31.1642(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:ein6vl$8qk_002(a)s943.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>
>>> My state is going to have an all Democrat political system with
>>> no checks nor balances.
>>
>>....and yet somehow you completely fail to see how unhealthy that has been
>>for the entire country.
>
>You do need to learn about Consitution. There are checks and
>balances working.

They don't mean Jack Abramoff is adding checks to the balances in the
republican's bank account when they refer to checks and balances.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <eipt9a$8qk_003(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <einm2q$4me$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>In article <ein6vl$8qk_002(a)s943.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>[....]
>>>My state is going to have an all Democrat political system with
>>>no checks nor balances. The guy running for governor is promising
>>>to break the 2.5% property tax mandate, eliminating the high
>>>school graduation test, increase the income tax (against
>>>another taxpayer mandate), and somehow thinks that all this
>>>new tax income will create jobs.
>>
>>What is he going to spend the money on?
>
>AFAICT, raising taxes.
>
>> If it is an improved
>>infrastructure, it is likely he is right.
>
>But these people don't spend the monies on infrastructure.
>It seems like everything gets dumped into the general fund
>which is a black hole.

Where does the money really go? "the general fund" is an accounting
device not the final destination of the money.

>
>> A lot of states have roads that
>>are in disrepair and have to live with railway level crossings on high
>>traffic roads. If the infrastucture issues have been a drag on industry,
>>it is very likely that increased taxes to pay for increased spending on
>>them is exactly what is needed.
>
>Before any taxes get increased, I want to see the current tax
>colletions spent on infrastructure. There is no evidence that
>new monies will be spent wisely. There is tons of evidence
>that it won't since these people don't use the current revenues
>for infrastructure.

Where are they spending the money. You can't stop to make a new fire
truck while putting out a fire.


>
>/BAH


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From: Ken Smith on
In article <f514h.8287$B31.1706(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[....]
>You have got to be kidding me. The rate at which we are currently
>hemorrhaging money over this insane war is "on the cheap"?????

Yes, they tried to do it "on the cheap". That doesn't mean it cost less.
It just indicates how they went at it. In the long run it ends up costing
a lot more.

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From: unsettled on
Ken Smith wrote:
> In article <87663$455065eb$4fe724c$5663(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>
>>Ken Smith wrote:
>
> [....]
>
>>>What traditional American values would these be? There never was a
>>>golden age. It is a myth we all like to belive but if you look at the
>>>past you find the horrors of today plus some.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>You know, the
>>>>folks who made America great in the first place!
>>>
>>>
>>>Read up on Franklin. You will find that he and most of the others who
>>>made America great in the first place would make the religious right
>>>blanch.
>>
>>What you've done this morning in two posts is to disclose
>>the low esteem in which you hold people.
>
>
> You missed the word "some" in that. I hold some people in low esteem
> because that is all they deserve.
>
>
>>You seem to have
>>some idea that the base element always prevails.
>
>
> No, I don't hold any such belief nor can I imagine how you concluded that
> from what I posted.
>
>
>
>>The facts are somewhat different. Each human exhibits some
>>degree of discontinuity in how they conduct their lives.
>>Franklin did manage to achieve some pretty significant
>>things, especially for someone whose first calling was
>>as a tradesman/printer.
>
>
> That Franklin did some amazing stuff and all is absolutely true. He is
> one of the people that made the US great. He was exactly the sort of
> person that made the US great. He was not anything like a member of the
> christian right.

Thanks for bringing my point home, though on the surface
it appears you don't realize you have.
From: lucasea on

"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
news:e7e64$45515248$49ecf6c$10663(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>
> It amazing to me how far afield from the original conversation
> this has been taken in order to avoid confronting the valid
> points that were made.

Good conversations meander, and explore all facets of a topic. Would you
rather that we spent the last 7300 posts fawning over you and how right you
were (which you weren't, by the way)? How insecure can you get? Get over
yourself!


> I'm amazed too at just how anti-American some people living here
> in the US are.

And here you are dead wrong in your assumptions. I love my country...so
much so, in fact, that I want it wrested from the grasp of a President and
political party run amok. It is incredibly arrogant of you to think that
you have the only way of thinking that could be considered pro-American, and
to equate "disagree with you" and "anti-American". In fact, that is the
most anti-American attitude I can think of--to be expected to either agree
with everything my government does or shut up.

Eric Lucas