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From: lucasea on 7 Nov 2006 22:01 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4551081E.F35B96FA(a)hotmail.com... > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >> > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >> >> Anyone who burns lumber (any kind) for heat either has more money than >> >> sense, or has absolutely no money and is in survival mode. >> > >> > Even in healthy forests trees die out for a variety >> > of reasons. Retired and with a bad back I can't >> > handle the stuff, so I give it away to folks who >> > want it. Your ideas on who uses wood and why is >> > all wet. >> >> I didn't say "wood", I said "lumber". Do you know the difference? > > Even I know that and lumber's not even an English Word. I did not know that. Interesting etymology at http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=lumber. > These guys love their strawmen don't they ? Yep. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 7 Nov 2006 22:12 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:73a84$45512de1$4fe465a$9976(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >> news:6ead5$4550d2a7$4fe756c$7863(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>news:e6db6$4550b23f$49ecf0b$7151(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>> >>>> >>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:21f8a$4550ac39$49ecf0b$7036(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:87663$455065eb$4fe724c$5663(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Ken Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>In article <92d5d$45506124$4fe724c$5573(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>>>>>>>>unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>[....] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>The extremists I think we really need to stop appeasing are the >>>>>>>>>>>>Religious Right and the Republicans who they are currently >>>>>>>>>>>>leading around by the nose. Tomorrow's our chance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps you're talking about the people who have and >>>>>>>>>>>maintain taditional American values. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>What traditional American values would these be? There never was >>>>>>>>>>a golden age. It is a myth we all like to belive but if you look >>>>>>>>>>at the past you find the horrors of today plus some. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>You know, the >>>>>>>>>>>folks who made America great in the first place! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Read up on Franklin. You will find that he and most of the others >>>>>>>>>>who made America great in the first place would make the religious >>>>>>>>>>right blanch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>What you've done this morning in two posts is to disclose >>>>>>>>>the low esteem in which you hold people. You seem to have >>>>>>>>>some idea that the base element always prevails. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Speaking for myself, not at all. I always hold out the hope that >>>>>>>>people can rise above their basest instincts of hatred and fear. >>>>>>>>It's just that every few years, we forget to keep a lookout for >>>>>>>>these things, and they take over. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The facts are somewhat different. Each human exhibits some >>>>>>>>>degree of discontinuity in how they conduct their lives. >>>>>>>>>Franklin did manage to achieve some pretty significant >>>>>>>>>things, especially for someone whose first calling was >>>>>>>>>as a tradesman/printer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Uh...that was his point. That, and the fact that Franklin and many >>>>>>>>of the others who made this country great had no use for your BS >>>>>>>>about "traditional American values". >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It looks like you've once again purposely discounted >>>>>>>the fact that most humans exhibit discontinuities. >>>>>> >>>>>>Not at all. I'm well aware of it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>What >>>>>>>that means is he didn't always observe the values he >>>>>>>generally stood for. >>>>>> >>>>>>What, exactly, would be your evidence that he "stood for" the same BS >>>>>>values that you pomp on about? Everything I've read says he was a >>>>>>very down-to-earth guy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Your posts continue to reek of hatred for your >>>>>>>fellow man. >>>>>> >>>>>>Not at all. I just the behavior of people that try to act better than >>>>>>me and tell me how to live my life. >>>>> >>>>>Ahhh, now it comes out, the jealousy card. Jumping up and down >>>>>with your hand in the air yelling "me too me too!" LOL >>>> >>>> >>>>What the hell are you on about now? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Get over your own insignificance. >>>> >>>> >>>>The only significance in which I hold myself is that I am capable of >>>>choosing how to live my own life, and will not allow anyone else to do >>>>that for me. To quote a wise man, "I yam what I yam." What about you? >>>>The only person with a lower fact:insult ratio than you in this thread >>>>is JoeBlow. >>> >>>Once again you have the ratio backwards. >> >> >> Oh, come on. Even your "partner" BAH has commented on your abysmal >> fact:insult ratio. > > You demean her mental abilities constantly and, up till > now, consistently. This post of yours particularly exposes > your dingenuous nature. Here's a convenient point for > you to agree when you agree with nothing else from her > keyboard, and you can hardly avoid taking advantage of > it all the while enhancing what it was she actually > wrote. Yes, it's called evaluating each point that she makes based on the merits of the facts. Most I agree with; this I disagree with. Can you even evaluate a post on its merits, or do you just knee-jerk agree with people like BAH? > Besides that, you misunderstand and misinterpret her > statements in these particulars. Yeah, I'm sure we'll see what she has to say about that. > If you understood who you're talking to, you'd have > realized that BAH has an aversion to anyone agreeing > with her "too much" (whatever that means.) I don't think I will ever be accused of that. > She has > an invariable history of finding fault with people > who agree with her too much (again, whatever that > means) so as a result you've seen her, I think > involuntary, reaction. No, you just insult people a *lot* (nearly as much as JoeBlow), and she called you on it. Get over yourself. > I wouldn't care to analyze that particular behavior > since it is of no consequence to me, And yet you write a > 200 word essay on it. > Go ahead and revel in what you think is cleverness. > You've failed to bank anything and you're on the > verge of becoming the weakest remaining link in > this discussion. Whatever. Eric Lucas
From: Ken Smith on 7 Nov 2006 22:15 In article <87663$455065eb$4fe724c$5663(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: [....] >> What traditional American values would these be? There never was a >> golden age. It is a myth we all like to belive but if you look at the >> past you find the horrors of today plus some. >> >> >>>You know, the >>>folks who made America great in the first place! >> >> >> Read up on Franklin. You will find that he and most of the others who >> made America great in the first place would make the religious right >> blanch. > >What you've done this morning in two posts is to disclose >the low esteem in which you hold people. You missed the word "some" in that. I hold some people in low esteem because that is all they deserve. > You seem to have >some idea that the base element always prevails. No, I don't hold any such belief nor can I imagine how you concluded that from what I posted. >The facts are somewhat different. Each human exhibits some >degree of discontinuity in how they conduct their lives. >Franklin did manage to achieve some pretty significant >things, especially for someone whose first calling was >as a tradesman/printer. That Franklin did some amazing stuff and all is absolutely true. He is one of the people that made the US great. He was exactly the sort of person that made the US great. He was not anything like a member of the christian right. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: lucasea on 7 Nov 2006 22:36 "Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message news:eirj4c$qa6$2(a)blue.rahul.net... > > Claiming that some popular hero in the past held the views you are > advocating is also a common trick. Albert Einstein said that he really > hated people who do this. ROFL--nice irony! Eric Lucas
From: Ken Smith on 7 Nov 2006 22:37
In article <45508F3D.D2564391(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> Nobody's appeasing anyone not suggesting they should do. >> > >> >unsettled (and those like him) have no case to put forward. As a result they >> >have to rely on scare terms such as the ubiquitous "Nazi" reference, mixed >> >in with what they view as cutting insults. >> > >> >How can you be an appeaser when there is no Nazi state to appease? >> >> There really is something that looks a lot like appeasing. Closing the >> Prince Sultan Airbase in 2003 sort of quacks like appeasement of the >> extremists. > >If by extremists you mean the population of Saudi I guess you're right. It isn't the entire population. > >Graham > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |