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From: T Wake on 3 Oct 2006 18:22 "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:4522DB9B.E2BB1527(a)earthlink.net... >T Wake wrote: >> >> Which is most important to you, your life or your way of life? > > > At this point in my life? They would have to kill me. > That is how it should be. As an Atheist, I feel that if my government tried to take away my freedoms (or the freedoms of my countrymen) simply to save my life they are doing a horrific act and I will attempt to resist with all my power. I would rather be blown up by a middle eastern terrorist than have to present an ID card to the police at checkpoints. I would rather be shot than have my country men lose their right to worship as they see fit.
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 18:26 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > >> T Wake wrote: > >> > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> >> T Wake wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> The same reason unthinking Muslims support groups considered > >> >>> terrorist by the west. > >> >> > >> >> Is Hezbollah a terrorist organisation ? > >> > > >> > If you are asking my opinion..... then yes. A nasty, ruthless one. > >> > However > >> > sometimes terrorists seem to come in from the cold. > >> > >> That's the point at which they've won. > > > > Looks like they won in that case. > > Do you count Hizbullah as a terrorist organisation? I don't see a clear cut black and white case either way quite frankly. The Turkish Gov't has a similar problem with the KDP. Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 18:28 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > T Wake wrote: > >> > > >> >> The same reason unthinking Muslims support groups considered terrorist > >> >> by the west. > >> > > >> > Is Hezbollah a terrorist organisation ? > >> > >> If you are asking my opinion..... then yes. A nasty, ruthless one. > >> However sometimes terrorists seem to come in from the cold. > > > > How do you account for its presence as a political party with elected > > members and its welfare schemes ? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah > > As I said, sometimes terrorists come in from the cold. They are an > organisation dedicated to the overthrow of another state through terror > based tactics. As I said, my personal opinion is that they are terrorists. > > I am sure the locals they support do not hold the same view. So, if such an organisation shows the signs of coming in the the cold should that not be encouraged ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 18:30 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > T Wake wrote: > >> > > >> >> This implies that Jews, Christians, Hindus etc are all subject to the > >> >> beheading. > >> > > >> > According to whom ? > >> > >> The original quote which was being discussed. > > > > And has that 'quote' any validity ? > > Not in my eyes. Which is why I pointed out its logical contradiction. Why? I'd lost track of it. And I don't see it as being a likely method of supposed forced conversion either. Graham
From: John Fields on 3 Oct 2006 18:29
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:19:16 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> >John Fields wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" wrote: >> >> >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> >> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it >> >> >> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of a >> >> >disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world or >> >> >destroy western society or convert every one or... >> >> >> >> --- >> >> "It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to >> >> convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by >> >> Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. >> >> >> >> Refusal to convert would result in death. >> > >> >Do you often conjure up such idiotic ideas out of thin air ? >> >> --- >> LOL, it's clear that you can't see past the end of your nose, nor >> are you a student of history. > >There is no possibilty ever of Islam being forced on any of us. > >You're a stupendously cretinous fool to even imagine it. --- If I can imagine it, it can happen, and just because you're so blinded by your arrogance that you can't is what will be your undoing. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer |