From: Homer J Simpson on 3 Oct 2006 19:11 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:gIidnViVbohtfL_YRVnyrA(a)pipex.net... >> British in Malaysia? > Yeah, it is the best one I can think of but I suspect the "long term" is > the problem. Still terrorists at play in the area today. (Granted not > Soviet supported ones!) > > The brunt of the success was down to a very successful hearts and minds > campaign mixed with extreme violence. Luckily the media didn't have its > current status so all the bad things were well enough hidden they didn't > inflame the population... Always the best way.
From: Homer J Simpson on 3 Oct 2006 19:11 "Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message news:mbq5i29hg2qgun7p1rm5fpbdb6fr31ogvs(a)4ax.com... > Where did the current terrorism financing and materials come > from? From the USA (oil). Unlike most every other conflict, the US is paying for both sides in this one.
From: John Larkin on 3 Oct 2006 19:13 On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:25:32 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Bunch of damn cowboys. > Yaaa-hoo! John
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 19:13 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > T Wake wrote: > >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > >> >> > Is Hezbollah a terrorist organisation ? > >> >> > >> >> If you are asking my opinion..... then yes. A nasty, ruthless one. > >> >> However sometimes terrorists seem to come in from the cold. > >> > > >> > How do you account for its presence as a political party with elected > >> > members and its welfare schemes ? > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah > >> > >> As I said, sometimes terrorists come in from the cold. They are an > >> organisation dedicated to the overthrow of another state through terror > >> based tactics. As I said, my personal opinion is that they are > >> terrorists. > >> > >> I am sure the locals they support do not hold the same view. > > > > So, if such an organisation shows the signs of coming in the the cold > > should that not be encouraged ? > > Well, depends on your perspective. > > The easy answer is yes. Get them on side and convert them into a sovereign > nation which can exist in the world and stop their bombings. Makes sense. > > However it has two stumbling blocks. > > First off, how do you get the "victims" of their attacks to sit back when > they wouldn't sit back. As with GFA, we now let terrorist murders back out > onto the streets - how do you think the families who lost people should > react? Terrorism feeds itself with the vicious circle and there is no clear > cut reason as to which side should give up first. I don't see anything unique about that involved with this course of action. > Secondly, you risk encouraging others. For example the only possible > official diplomatic standpoints you can hold with terrorists (or kidnappers > etc) is no negotiation. As soon as you negotiate, more join in. By letting > one group bomb you to the negotiating table it implies to the others that as > long as they can hold out and kill enough of "you," eventually you will join > them in talks. So it was wrong to talk to the IRA ? > From a personal opinion, Hezbollah are genuine scum who despite current > appearances should continue to be treated as terrorists. Sadly, their enemy > state only exists because the west gave in to terrorists so they (may) feel > if they go long enough they can get it as well. It's called realpolitik. Graham
From: Jim Thompson on 3 Oct 2006 19:14
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:06:48 -0700, JoeBloe <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:13:24 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us: > >>Yep, all it takes is a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and you too can >>declare victory in your favorite war on x...and here's the best >>part...without actually having to accomplish anything. > > What have you EVER done to make the world a better place? He's a paisano at Battelle ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |