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From: JoeBloe on 3 Oct 2006 19:33 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:37:00 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >At this level he's really a closet Islamist. You're a goddamned idiot.
From: John Fields on 3 Oct 2006 19:34 On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:04:06 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >JoeBloe wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:17:53 +0100, Eeyore >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> > but the *SMALLEST* among developed countries as a >> >percentage of its GDP >> >> Whoopie fuckin doo. That proves that we are a prosperous nation and >> we still beat everyone else on the tab. > >No. It proves you're shallow. --- No, it doesn't. If we gave much more it would make everyone else's contribution look so small that they'd figure it was OK to abrogate their responsibility and they'd give even less. Or nothing at all. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: JoeBloe on 3 Oct 2006 19:37 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:55:05 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody(a)nowhere.com> Gave us: > >"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >news:45214A32.16D10271(a)earthlink.net... > >> This should narrow it down: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WHOIS results for 131.167.64.124 > >Now you are a stalker? > Jeez. A remark like that proves that you are a complete idiot.
From: John Larkin on 3 Oct 2006 19:39 On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:13:11 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:25:32 +0100, Eeyore ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> >>Bunch of damn cowboys. >> > >Yaaa-hoo! > >John Which reminds me that it's time to mosey on home and watch the next episode of "Deadwood" John
From: T Wake on 3 Oct 2006 19:40
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4522F36A.94B7D4B(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> > T Wake wrote: >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> >> > T Wake wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> The key is removing the lifeblood of the terrorists. Without this, >> >> >> it >> >> >> will never end. >> >> > >> >> > Their lifeblood is quite simply injustices ( real or perceived ). >> >> > Can >> >> > you remove them ? >> >> >> >> It isn't always their lifeblood and if you don't the conflict will >> >> last >> >> for eternity. >> >> >> >> You can disable a terrorist group by stopping the local people from >> >> supporting them. This is where removing the perception of injustice >> >> comes >> >> from. >> > >> > How are you going to persuade the locals of this ? >> >> I never said it was easy. This is what a hearts and minds campaign >> consists >> of. >> >> You only asked could this be done. The answer is yes. > > In the long term I dare say. It won't be done by force though. I never said it would be short term or enforced. >> >> Look at the [expletive deleted] from Leeds who blew up the >> >> underground. >> >> For them to function there has to be places where they can exist and >> >> move >> >> about. >> > >> > Their homes it would seem and the streets in the places where they >> > live. >> >> Yes. Because the local people support their fight. > > Actually it seems that local ppl have been genuinely surprised. I suspect most of them are. There have to be enough sympathisers for it to have happened though. >> How can this be the case in a developed country with a democratically >> elected >> government and low unemployment? > > Because it has nothing to do with any of the above. Yet young, educated men decided to kill their country men. The problem is they had become disassociated with their own country enough for this to happen. If they had come from an integrated part of society it would have been less likely to happen and they would have been less able to function. >> If I disagree with a government policy I dont blow myself up to make a >> point. > > You come from a different culture. Well, I was born British....... >> >> Educate people that these are not "Fighting for a cause" and you make >> >> it >> >> a little bit harder for them. Educate people that they (bombers) are >> >> evil >> >> criminals and you make it harder yet. >> > >> > How are you going to educate them about this idea ? Why should they >> > believe you? >> >> They don't have to. I never said it would be successful. You asked could >> it >> be done. >> >> Previously you refered to Borneo as a success story. This is how it >> happened. >> >> The education begins with teaching the people what a democracy is and >> what >> is good about it. By educating people to be a part of society not >> separate >> themselves. >> >> If they chose not accept this then the conflict will continue. Eventually >> one side will die out. >> >> >> Alternatively you could put every mosque under armed guard and provide >> >> them with no end of support.... :-) >> > >> > Whose 'support' are you referring to ? >> >> Well, mine for a start, if the government ever took such a measure. > > I was thinking that posting armed gurds around Mosques would actually help > the > extremists. It would. I would support the extremists. That is what "provide them with no end of support" means. The earlier examples were ways you can reduce the support the extremists get. The removal of "rights" gives them supporters. >> I will redirect the questioning - how to you propose to disable and >> disarm >> the current terrorist threat? > > I don't believe it can ever be completely done ( disable and disarm ) > > The only way to change this long term is simply by acting honourably and > hoping > it gets noticed. Fair one. And I agree. Everyone dies in the end, so for me maintaining the moral high ground is better than living a bit longer. |