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From: lucasea on 15 Nov 2006 11:29 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ejf56j$8qk_003(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <5hk6h.25029$TV3.4028(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ejccrn$8ss_006(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <BN06h.5439$IR4.708(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:45586F70.5FF100EE(a)hotmail.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >Finding the right thing that's profitable isn't always that easy. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is easy. People around here charge $50 for 15 minutes' worth >>>>>> of housecleaning and they get it. >>>>> >>>>> They do ? >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure they wouldn't here. >>>> >>>> >>>>It's certainly not the norm in the US. It might be $50, (I've heard >>>>smaller >>>>number, in the $30 - $40 range) but it's not for 15 minutes >>>>work--typically >>>>it is for cleaning a whole house, which, including vacuuming, mopping, >>>>cleaning the loo, is probably more like an hour or two. >>> >>> I have a 4-room house. If one is healthy, it takes 15 minutes to do >>> the usual cleaning. >> >>Once again, we see extrapolation of barely relevant experience well beyond >>the bounds of extrapolability. >> >>1) I'm sure that anybody that pays $50 to have their house cleaned has >>more >>than a 4 room house. > > And you would be wrong. There is a minimum charge around here. OK, let me put it another way. Nobody who owns a 4-room house is going to pay $50 to get their house cleaned. >>2) I'm sure that anybody that pays $50 to have their house cleaned has >>higher standards of cleanliness than 15 minutes to clean 4 rooms. > > You would be wrong. Evidence, please. >> I have a >>8 room house, and it takes about 2 hours to clean it if I word very fast >>(it >>takes the Missus about 4 hours when she does it). When I've lived in 4 >>room >>houses in the past, it took about an hour. > > You must have had rugs in all of them to take that long to clean. No, nothing more than vacuuming. That takes about an hour to do the whole house. Then there's mopping, dusting, and cleaning the bathrooms. That takes about another hour. >>In all likelihood, that $50 is for about 2 hours' work, which is actually >>(surprise, surprise) about par for that type of labor. > > It took 15 minutes to clean my house. Period. Not deep clean but > the usual Saturday morning cleaning. And I'm going to suggest that anybody that pays $50 to clean their house has higher standards of cleanliness than you do. Or you're just making things up to be argumentative. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 15 Nov 2006 11:32 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ejf5am$8qk_004(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <8aCdnbqWfskwvMfYnZ2dnUVZ8sKdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ejccrn$8ss_006(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <BN06h.5439$IR4.708(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:45586F70.5FF100EE(a)hotmail.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >Finding the right thing that's profitable isn't always that easy. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is easy. People around here charge $50 for 15 minutes' worth >>>>>> of housecleaning and they get it. >>>>> >>>>> They do ? >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure they wouldn't here. >>>> >>>> >>>>It's certainly not the norm in the US. It might be $50, (I've heard >>>>smaller >>>>number, in the $30 - $40 range) but it's not for 15 minutes >>>>work--typically >>>>it is for cleaning a whole house, which, including vacuuming, mopping, >>>>cleaning the loo, is probably more like an hour or two. >>> >>> I have a 4-room house. If one is healthy, it takes 15 minutes to do >>> the usual cleaning. >> >>Blimey. I am going to cut this out and give it to my wife. >> >>I can only suspect your standards of "the usual cleaning" are different to >>other peoples. Ah, *now* we get the story behind the wild extrapolations. > Perhaps. If you don't have carpeting it takes about two minutes to > vacuum if you don't move furniture. Most people have carpet, and most people have the area under the furniture cleaned. Next assumption. > There are ways to do cleaning efficiently. The pros have all the > tricks. Part of the habit of living is be in contant pickup > mode. Reduces cleaning times by a lot. And why would somebody who has someone else clean their house get in this habit? If they're not doing the cleaning, there's no incentive to. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 15 Nov 2006 11:33 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ejf5gb$8qk_006(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <cik6h.25030$TV3.8129(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ejccvf$8ss_007(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <4558C9E2.8C4D1D97(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >Finding the right thing that's profitable isn't always that easy. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> It is easy. People around here charge $50 for 15 minutes' worth >>>>> >> of housecleaning and they get it. >>>>> > >>>>> > They do ? >>>>> > >>>>> > I'm sure they wouldn't here. >>>>> >>>>> It's certainly not the norm in the US. It might be $50, (I've heard >>> smaller >>>>> number, in the $30 - $40 range) but it's not for 15 minutes >>>>> work--typically >>>>> it is for cleaning a whole house, which, including vacuuming, mopping, >>>>> cleaning the loo, is probably more like an hour or two. >>>> >>>>I think I detect a dismissive attitude from BAH as in she thinks it >>>>should >>> only >>>>take 15 mins to clean a house. Strange though, most women I know like to >>>>make >>> a >>>>song and dance about it. >>>> >>> >>> You people are unbelievable. I can write any ASCII line and >>> the meaning will be turned into the most politically uncorrect >>> agenda. >> >>.....says the woman who plays the gender card at any possible opportunity >>when it is to her advantage. Double standard? > > Bizarre. You play the gender card No, actually I didn't. Learn to read attributions. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 15 Nov 2006 11:50 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:455B22D4.F5201E8C(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >And you like to imply things that just aren't true. You weren't >> >> >living on >> >> >"$2/day". >> >> >> >> Right. It was $2/month. >> > >> >And you can also clean a whole house in 15 mins ? >> >> When I was well, I could clean mine in 15 minutes. > > That couldn't have beena very thorough cleaning. Adequate for day-to-day > but not > over an extended period. She seems to be a day-to-day kind of person--cleaning not sustainable over the long haul, happy to have people not earning enough to be sustainable over the long haul. That really creates a dissonance when she lectures us about planning ahead. Eric Lucas
From: Don Bowey on 15 Nov 2006 11:51
On 11/15/06 6:41 AM, in article 455B272F.A606B0DD(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> $30 a month is massively expensive for USENET. >>>> >>>> I don't think so. The service provided was 7x24, never down >>>> and the people knew what was going whenever something odd >>>> was happening. When I said I got what I paid for, I meant >>>> that the service was superb, timely, and absent of all bullshit. >>> >>> I pay $2.95 for news access and it seems just fine too. 24/7 is the norm. >> >> When I bought the service DOS 6.0 and Win 3.11 was the usual >> ISP software run. These guys were running Unix on Alphas. If >> there was a glitch on my end, I could call their help line, ask >> the guy if the systems were up. He would yell across his office >> wall if there were any problems and get an immediate answer. > > I pretty much get that from my ISP too. > > >> There wree no 500-Q&A sales mazes to go through before getting >> my question answered. That was worth $30/month for not spending >> my time on bullshit. > > I don't have that problem either. I'm paying ?17.99 p.c.m. but that is for an > 8Mbps connection. > > Graham > What is the bitrate upstream? |