From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
>
> >> I'm waiting until India and China figure out how to run clean rooms.
> >
> > "SAN JOSE, Calif. =3F IBM Corp. has entered into an agreement to
> > take a 24 percent stake for $150 million in one of India's
> > fledging wafer fab companies =3F India Semiconductor Manufacturing
> > Co. (ISMC), according to the Business Standard in India."
> >
> >http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=164901668
> >
> Aren't these fabs as "fussy" as chemical plants?

At least as. At least they don't blow up though.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >Well, Eeyore, this would belie the assertion that she lives too far from a
> >population center to get decent DSL.
>
> I live in a town. There is no DSL line strung.
> You people are starting to get really annoying.

DSL comes down an ordinary telephone line !

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> >> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>So, the insurance based model is broken is it not ?
> >> >>
> >> >> It is now since the HMOs have become the preferred payers.
> >> >
> >> >An NHS would cure that.
> >>
> >> No, it would not. What Hillary was planning was a worse case.
> >
> >She wasn't planning a proper NHS though AIUI.
>
> Then will you try to get my point? Whatever the Dems do manage
> to get through will be an awful, non-working mess.

You mean even if they came up with the 'perfect plan' that everyone agreed was
great you'd still dismiss it becasue it was the Democrats' idea ?

Why do you have this dismissive attitude ?


> You keep insisting that an NHS will work in the US.

I see no reason why not.


> It will not because
> yours (assuming it does function) will not be a template for
> anything the US Congress will pass.

That's simply negativity on your part. You're giving up on the idea without even
considering it properly.


> >> I suppose, us USAians could join your NHS and go to your doctors
> >> for service.
> >
> >For $2291 per head p.a. why not ? The air fares would be expensive though.
> >
> >
> >> Perhaps you would then learn some of the problems
> >> of having to service too many people with finite resources.
> >
> >We know all about having to do that ! The NHS is expert at it.
>
> I don't think you do know all about it. Wait until there's
> a global epidemic and then you'll find out where all the
> bugs are.

If there's a global epidemic the NHS and other similar organisations will be the
very ones best placed to deal with it.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>So, the insurance based model is broken is it not ?
> >>>>
> >>>> It is now since the HMOs have become the preferred payers.
> >>>
> >>>An NHS would cure that.
> >>
> >> No, it would not. What Hillary was planning was a worse case.
> >
> >Two distinct sentences yet you imply an A means B relationship.
> >
> >An NHS _would_ solve the problem you have with HMOs. Whatever Hillary was
> >planning is not relevant.
>
> It is relavant because that's what the US would end up with.

That's your presumption.

You probably have a point in that vested interests won't want to give up their
profits easily. Whilst that attitude is tolerated, little progress is indeed
likely to be made.

Which is why an 'American NHS' would need stong leadership to push it through.

Graham


From: Eeyore on


Don Bowey wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Don Bowey wrote:
> >
> >> He [JoeBloe] hasn't been very bright in any of the many personas he has
> used.
> >>
> >> Don
> >
> > I agree. What was the one he used between Nunya Bidness and JoeBloe ?
> >
> > Graham
> >
>
> I'm afraid I found him very forgettable...

Seems I forgot too - lol !

Graham