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From: Eeyore on 15 Nov 2006 12:06 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> > >> >Well, Eeyore, this would belie the assertion that she lives too far from > >> >a population center to get decent DSL. > >> > >> I live in a town. There is no DSL line strung. > >> You people are starting to get really annoying. > > > > DSL comes down an ordinary telephone line ! > > Well, in fairness, the way it's being implemented in the US, it does need > fiber optic to the local neighborhood green box (the word for these green > boxes escapes me at the moment). From there, copper to your house is fine. > However, the phone companies have been running that fiber optic like madmen, > and have most of the country covered , except the very most rural areas. Intruighing. Over here it's typically copper all the way from the exchange. Graham
From: Don Bowey on 15 Nov 2006 12:09 On 11/15/06 8:13 AM, in article 81H6h.25553$TV3.11128(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com, "lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net" <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ejf204$8ss_011(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <9f122$4559e15e$49ecf8a$7613(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> <snip> >> >>> (Compare lucas electrical systems in Brit cars.) >>> >> Ouchy, ouchy. > > Yes, I have a 1970 MGB. I curse my namesake on a weekly basis. > > Eric Lucas > > Be nice now. The whole idea is to work on them all week and go motoring on the weekend. Accept that and all will be right with the world. Mostly. Sometimes. I have three, the oldest of which is a 50 MGTD. The newest is 1979, and it's waiting for a new home; I hope someone in the club wants a rebuildable freebe. I heard the Brits learned to like warm beer, because Lucas also makes refrigerators.
From: lucasea on 15 Nov 2006 12:24 "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message news:MPG.1fc5059179c11c2a989b78(a)news.individual.net... > In article <mkx6h.6430$Sw1.2684(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:455A99E1.A3ED916A(a)hotmail.com... >> > >> > >> > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> > >> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> > When you are earning $200 per week, how much can you spare to pay >> >> > off a >> >> > mortgage? What duration are US Mortgages? >> >> >> >> The longest common mortgage used to be 30 years, with 15 and 10 not >> >> being >> >> uncommon. >> >> >> >> > How much of a deposit is normally put down? >> >> >> >> Typically 10 - 20%, although with the housing market softening, >> >> mortgage >> >> companies are starting to do really dodgy things, like suckering >> >> people >> >> that >> >> can barely afford it into a mortgage with 0% down. When someone is >> >> this >> >> financially strapped, it doesn't take much (one appliance failing, for >> >> example) for them to get well and truly upside-down, another term for >> >> "financially fucked". >> > >> > I saw the othe day that some UK lenders are now offering 40 yr + >> > mortgages >> > and >> > crazy income multiples. >> >> Yeah, I actually forgot to add that one of the more unethical lending >> practices developing in the US is what's called an "interest-only >> mortgage". >> In other words, the borrower is only obligated to pay the interest each >> month, and need never put a cent toward principal. That is, in >> actuality, >> an infinite-term mortgage (although there may be some language in the >> agreement about having to pay off the principal by some date--it's just >> that >> the required monthly payments don't account for it). > > How is it in any way "unethical"? The buyer knows all of the > conditions ahead of time. I can see many circumstances were this > sort of mortgage would make a lot of sense. Maybe, but what's happening here is that there are a lot of people who can't really afford to buy a house, that this type of mortgage enables. They then find out they cannot afford the house, neglect the house, go into foreclosure, and housing values all around them tank. I'm mostly annoyed that this is an enabler that it destroying values of whole neighborhoods, and taking the other, more responsible buyers down with them. > You must really come > unglued at reverse mortgages. Can't say I really know what they are. Eric Luca
From: lucasea on 15 Nov 2006 12:27 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:455B4037.D1FB0BEF(a)hotmail.com... > > > krw wrote: > >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >> >> > What does a phone line cost btw ? >> >> When I got rid of them they were about $48/mo each. > > That's very expensive. Does that include any calls ? That's *ridiculously* expensive. My last three have all been in the neighborhood of $25/month, unlimited local calls. Eric Lucas
From: Don Bowey on 15 Nov 2006 12:33
On 11/15/06 9:06 AM, in article 455B492E.B8388F27(a)hotmail.com, "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, Eeyore, this would belie the assertion that she lives too far from >>>>> a population center to get decent DSL. >>>> >>>> I live in a town. There is no DSL line strung. >>>> You people are starting to get really annoying. >>> >>> DSL comes down an ordinary telephone line ! >> >> Well, in fairness, the way it's being implemented in the US, it does need >> fiber optic to the local neighborhood green box (the word for these green >> boxes escapes me at the moment). From there, copper to your house is fine. >> However, the phone companies have been running that fiber optic like madmen, >> and have most of the country covered , except the very most rural areas. > > Intruighing. Over here it's typically copper all the way from the exchange. > > Graham > Not unless you are within "DSL range" of the office, which is the same as the transmission range of the POTS service on non-loaded cable, I could be mistaken, but I recall that is around 12 kft on 26G cable. I'll see if I can find the Standard. Don |