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From: Don Bowey on 15 Nov 2006 08:36 On 11/14/06 9:02 PM, in article Rbx6h.6426$Sw1.3046(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, "lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net" <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message > news:MPG.1fc459ba145f0210989b5d(a)news.individual.net... >> In article <Lzv6h.6398$Sw1.5307(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, >> lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net says... >>> >>> "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote in message >>> news:MPG.1fc3cb5179e833c9989b43(a)news.individual.net... >>>> >>>> (of course I don't have a phone line, >>>> so...). >>> >>> Well, that latter would be the real issue then, not the distance to a >>> hub. >> >> No, you ditz! I choose not to have a phone line (too expensive), > > Actually, the phone company will run a line to your house for free. There's > nothing saying you have to get phone service using the line. > > Eric Lucas > > Very interesting - who is your Telco? Among the ex-Bells and Verizon, a phone line will not be run to a residence unless someone pays for it. That can be be the house's building contractor. Otherwise the Telco requires a Service Order, and there are costs involved. Nothing for free. Don
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Nov 2006 08:37 In article <5hk6h.25029$TV3.4028(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ejccrn$8ss_006(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <BN06h.5439$IR4.708(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:45586F70.5FF100EE(a)hotmail.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >Finding the right thing that's profitable isn't always that easy. >>>>> >>>>> It is easy. People around here charge $50 for 15 minutes' worth >>>>> of housecleaning and they get it. >>>> >>>> They do ? >>>> >>>> I'm sure they wouldn't here. >>> >>> >>>It's certainly not the norm in the US. It might be $50, (I've heard >>>smaller >>>number, in the $30 - $40 range) but it's not for 15 minutes >>>work--typically >>>it is for cleaning a whole house, which, including vacuuming, mopping, >>>cleaning the loo, is probably more like an hour or two. >> >> I have a 4-room house. If one is healthy, it takes 15 minutes to do >> the usual cleaning. > >Once again, we see extrapolation of barely relevant experience well beyond >the bounds of extrapolability. > >1) I'm sure that anybody that pays $50 to have their house cleaned has more >than a 4 room house. And you would be wrong. There is a minimum charge around here. >2) I'm sure that anybody that pays $50 to have their house cleaned has >higher standards of cleanliness than 15 minutes to clean 4 rooms. You would be wrong. > I have a >8 room house, and it takes about 2 hours to clean it if I word very fast (it >takes the Missus about 4 hours when she does it). When I've lived in 4 room >houses in the past, it took about an hour. You must have had rugs in all of them to take that long to clean. > >In all likelihood, that $50 is for about 2 hours' work, which is actually >(surprise, surprise) about par for that type of labor. It took 15 minutes to clean my house. Period. Not deep clean but the usual Saturday morning cleaning. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Nov 2006 08:39 In article <8aCdnbqWfskwvMfYnZ2dnUVZ8sKdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ejccrn$8ss_006(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <BN06h.5439$IR4.708(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:45586F70.5FF100EE(a)hotmail.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >Finding the right thing that's profitable isn't always that easy. >>>>> >>>>> It is easy. People around here charge $50 for 15 minutes' worth >>>>> of housecleaning and they get it. >>>> >>>> They do ? >>>> >>>> I'm sure they wouldn't here. >>> >>> >>>It's certainly not the norm in the US. It might be $50, (I've heard >>>smaller >>>number, in the $30 - $40 range) but it's not for 15 minutes >>>work--typically >>>it is for cleaning a whole house, which, including vacuuming, mopping, >>>cleaning the loo, is probably more like an hour or two. >> >> I have a 4-room house. If one is healthy, it takes 15 minutes to do >> the usual cleaning. > >Blimey. I am going to cut this out and give it to my wife. > >I can only suspect your standards of "the usual cleaning" are different to >other peoples. Perhaps. If you don't have carpeting it takes about two minutes to vacuum if you don't move furniture. There are ways to do cleaning efficiently. The pros have all the tricks. Part of the habit of living is be in contant pickup mode. Reduces cleaning times by a lot. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Nov 2006 08:41 In article <4559C9AA.583E5E21(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Finding the right thing that's profitable isn't always that easy. >> >> >> >> >> >> It is easy. People around here charge $50 for 15 minutes' worth >> >> >> of housecleaning and they get it. >> >> > >> >> > They do ? >> >> > >> >> > I'm sure they wouldn't here. >> >> >> >> It's certainly not the norm in the US. It might be $50, (I've heard >> >> smaller >> >> number, in the $30 - $40 range) but it's not for 15 minutes work--typically >> >> it is for cleaning a whole house, which, including vacuuming, mopping, >> >> cleaning the loo, is probably more like an hour or two. >> > >> >I think I detect a dismissive attitude from BAH as in she thinks it should >> >only >> >take 15 mins to clean a house. Strange though, most women I know like to make >> >a song and dance about it. >> >> >> You people are unbelievable. I can write any ASCII line and >> the meaning will be turned into the most politically uncorrect >> agenda. > >$200 p.h. is a bit rich for housecleaning ! A person can make a ton of money in this area just housecleaning. There are people who will do errands for money and they make a living. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 15 Nov 2006 08:42
In article <cik6h.25030$TV3.8129(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ejccvf$8ss_007(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <4558C9E2.8C4D1D97(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> >>>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >Finding the right thing that's profitable isn't always that easy. >>>> >> >>>> >> It is easy. People around here charge $50 for 15 minutes' worth >>>> >> of housecleaning and they get it. >>>> > >>>> > They do ? >>>> > >>>> > I'm sure they wouldn't here. >>>> >>>> It's certainly not the norm in the US. It might be $50, (I've heard >> smaller >>>> number, in the $30 - $40 range) but it's not for 15 minutes >>>> work--typically >>>> it is for cleaning a whole house, which, including vacuuming, mopping, >>>> cleaning the loo, is probably more like an hour or two. >>> >>>I think I detect a dismissive attitude from BAH as in she thinks it should >> only >>>take 15 mins to clean a house. Strange though, most women I know like to >>>make >> a >>>song and dance about it. >>> >> >> You people are unbelievable. I can write any ASCII line and >> the meaning will be turned into the most politically uncorrect >> agenda. > >.....says the woman who plays the gender card at any possible opportunity >when it is to her advantage. Double standard? Bizarre. You play the gender card and then make a comment claiming I did. You are getting certifiable. /BAH |