From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 03:32 Homer J Simpson wrote: > <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote > > > The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the > > distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism. You mean 'Islamism' btw. > Try to remain > > truthful, to the extent of your ability. > > It is a difference too subtle for most Muslims. It's also too subtle for many Americans to understand. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 03:36 Homer J Simpson wrote: > <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote > > > Western Europe wasn't interested in getting much involved in the > > anshluss, because it wasn't the target of Nazi expansionism. Then, > > though a tad more interested, it decided against getting involved with > > Chechoslovakia because, again, it wasn't the target. And then... > > The Anschluss was popular with most Austrians as well. It would be hard to > pick a side back then, and Chamberlain wasn't going near it. Chamberlain knew the game was up already. Why do you think the British Gov't gave the go-ahead for radar research in 1935 and ordered the Chain Home as fast as it could be made ? Chamnberlain was simply intentionally 'buying time' so that Britain could adequately re-arm, since taking on the Germans earlier would have been a complete disaster. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 03:41 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:45206C5F.A62FC9E3(a)hotmail.com... > > > > > > mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > > > >> The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the > >> distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism. > > > > I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference. > > I think that's true, in much the same way that most non-USians don't > understand the difference between the US populace, and the self-annointed > few that have taken over the foreign policy of the country, and insist on > blaming the foolish behavior of our First Bufoon and his henchmen on > Americans as a whole. Brave words Sir, since the Repubs would likely brand you a traitor for such talk. My faith in traditional American values of decency was recently aided by some videos I saw on YouTube of Keith Olberman. > One thing that doesn't help the average person understand the difference > between mainstream Islam and Islamic extremism is people like Meron saying > that mainstream Islam, as it is taught in the Koran, is all about killing > all non-Muslims. All religions seem to have these issues. In Christianity we have the conflict between the values of the Old and New Testaments for example. It's my understanding that a similar situation arises in Islam between the early ( almost liberal ) and late ( reactionary ) teachings of Mohammed. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 03:44 John Larkin wrote: > On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" wrote: > >"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote > > > >>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else? > >>> > >> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before > >> President Bush and the present Republican administration was > >> involved in any way. > > > >But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires > >international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or > >unwilling to be involved in. > > I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where > might that be found? Not in the USA it seems. Have you forgotten that 'foreign' intelligence agencies warned the USA of a potential terrorist attack ? Have you forgotten that the USA regularly denigrates the UN ? International co-operation ! Hmmm......... Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 03:47
John Larkin wrote: > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:33:19 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > > > >> The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the > >> distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism. > > > >I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference. > > How many is "many"? Seven? If "many" means "a significant fraction", > then you are, as usual, inventing anti-American "facts." The majority who post on Usenet for sure ! It seems to me that the US War on Terror has simply created a new kind of hostile racism or culture'ism of a sort. Graham |