From: Eeyore on


Homer J Simpson wrote:

> <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote
>
> > The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the
> > distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism.

You mean 'Islamism' btw.


> Try to remain
> > truthful, to the extent of your ability.
>
> It is a difference too subtle for most Muslims.

It's also too subtle for many Americans to understand.

Graham


From: Eeyore on


Homer J Simpson wrote:

> <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote
>
> > Western Europe wasn't interested in getting much involved in the
> > anshluss, because it wasn't the target of Nazi expansionism. Then,
> > though a tad more interested, it decided against getting involved with
> > Chechoslovakia because, again, it wasn't the target. And then...
>
> The Anschluss was popular with most Austrians as well. It would be hard to
> pick a side back then, and Chamberlain wasn't going near it.

Chamberlain knew the game was up already.

Why do you think the British Gov't gave the go-ahead for radar research in
1935 and ordered the Chain Home as fast as it could be made ?

Chamnberlain was simply intentionally 'buying time' so that Britain could
adequately re-arm, since taking on the Germans earlier would have been a
complete disaster.

Graham


From: Eeyore on


lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45206C5F.A62FC9E3(a)hotmail.com...
> >
> >
> > mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
> >
> >> The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the
> >> distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism.
> >
> > I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference.
>
> I think that's true, in much the same way that most non-USians don't
> understand the difference between the US populace, and the self-annointed
> few that have taken over the foreign policy of the country, and insist on
> blaming the foolish behavior of our First Bufoon and his henchmen on
> Americans as a whole.

Brave words Sir, since the Repubs would likely brand you a traitor for such
talk. My faith in traditional American values of decency was recently aided by
some videos I saw on YouTube of Keith Olberman.


> One thing that doesn't help the average person understand the difference
> between mainstream Islam and Islamic extremism is people like Meron saying
> that mainstream Islam, as it is taught in the Koran, is all about killing
> all non-Muslims.

All religions seem to have these issues. In Christianity we have the conflict
between the values of the Old and New Testaments for example. It's my
understanding that a similar situation arises in Islam between the early (
almost liberal ) and late ( reactionary ) teachings of Mohammed.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" wrote:
> >"Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote
> >
> >>>So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?
> >>>
> >> No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
> >> President Bush and the present Republican administration was
> >> involved in any way.
> >
> >But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
> >international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
> >unwilling to be involved in.
>
> I don't understand those words, "international cooperation." Where
> might that be found?

Not in the USA it seems.

Have you forgotten that 'foreign' intelligence agencies warned the USA of
a potential terrorist attack ?

Have you forgotten that the USA regularly denigrates the UN ?

International co-operation ! Hmmm.........

Graham

From: Eeyore on


John Larkin wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 02:33:19 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
> >
> >> The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point. It makes the
> >> distinction between Islam and Islamic extremism.
> >
> >I can assure you that many Americans don't understand the difference.
>
> How many is "many"? Seven? If "many" means "a significant fraction",
> then you are, as usual, inventing anti-American "facts."

The majority who post on Usenet for sure !

It seems to me that the US War on Terror has simply created a new kind of
hostile racism or culture'ism of a sort.

Graham