From: lucasea on 2 Oct 2006 10:43 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4520F44A.881C5E16(a)hotmail.com... > > > mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >> In article <efqje7$8ss_003(a)s821.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes: >> >In article <45206C37.EA6475DA(a)hotmail.com>, >> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >> >> >> >>> Western Europe wasn't interested in getting much involved in the >> >>> anshluss, because it wasn't the target of Nazi expansionism. >> >> >> >>All of which has zilch to do with this. >> > >> >Your comment is an example of why history has to repeat itself. >> > >> Yes, exactly. > > There is no exactly about it. > > It's just that the American fundamentalist Right has only scare tactics to > resort to and > nothing of substance whatever. ....and if one chooses to draw parallels between our actions in the Middle East and 1933-1939 Germany, one parallel is the fact that Bush is using similar scare tactics to retain power, take away peoples' rights, and kill a segment of the world population, in much the same propagandistic way that Hitler did. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bush is the next Hitler, just that there *are* parallels between their misanthropic behavior, if hugely different in degree and consequence. Eric Lucas
From: Ken Smith on 2 Oct 2006 10:50 In article <XxYTg.5$45.149(a)news.uchicago.edu>, <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote: [....] >Criminals are people who are motivated by self interest and can be >deterred by sufficiently reducing the chance of profit. No, criminals are people who commit crimes. Their have been some who have done so for nonprofit and in a few cases nonselfish reasons. They are still none the less criminals. Consider the example of someone who gives LSD to minors because it "expands their mind". Such a person is still a criminal. > And, they're >parasites on the society, not trying to destroy it, just milk it. They may in many cases really be trying to destroy it. Simply "milking it" may not be their aim at all. They may see themselves as trying to reform it or improve it. > The >Islamic terrorists aim at destruction of the western society and >you're not going to deter them because there is no deterring people >who already decided that they don't care whether they live or die. Actually that is not true. Deterring people is about placing a treat against what they value. You may be able to deter many of them with the threat that if there is another attack, we will nuke Meca. They also very likely would fear being held in prison for life. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 10:53 Jim Thompson wrote: > That's why we should .... burn the UN to the ground. It clearly doesn't belong in NY any more. It should move to Europe. There'll be a nice building going begging soon in Strasbourg for it. I'd also hope that Nato might vote to kick out the USA too. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 10:57 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > > It's just that the American fundamentalist Right has only scare tactics to > > resort to and nothing of substance whatever. > > ...and if one chooses to draw parallels between our actions in the Middle > East and 1933-1939 Germany, There isn't even the tiniest iota of similarity. > one parallel is the fact that Bush is using > similar scare tactics to retain power, take away peoples' rights, and kill a > segment of the world population, in much the same propagandistic way that > Hitler did. Well... he is. The removal of constitutional safeguards and checks is a case in point. > Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bush is the next > Hitler, just that there *are* parallels between their misanthropic behavior, > if hugely different in degree and consequence. Very different. The outcome could be similar though. This is why the USA needs to be halted in its current idiotic behaviour. Graham
From: John Larkin on 2 Oct 2006 10:57
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:09:14 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > >> Jim Thompson wrote: >> > >> > That's where we pretend we like the French ;-) >> >> Sorry, Jim, but I'm not THAT good at playing pretend. > >Don't worry. The French don't much like your kind of Americans either. > >Graham Heck, you can hardly get into a roadside rest area bathroom for the crowds from the French tour busses. On our way back from Monterey, my wife had to sit shivering at the Junipera Serra rest stop for that very reason, waiting out a bus full of female French tourists. If you go to the top of Twin Peaks in San Francisco, the language you're most likely to overhear is German. Stay home! The lines at Peet's Coffee and Joseph Schmidt Chocolate are long enough already. John |