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From: John Fields on 2 Oct 2006 10:59 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:48:31 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:6ln0i296ogmudnj5hhpl3nl9gadkfo6o9c(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:17:17 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" >> <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>>news:j0j0i21qmups653btr7mdtr7q44pu7b1ug(a)4ax.com... >>> >>>> I see. You think that we've isolated ourselves and that we're >>>> pursuing a strictly military solution to the problem. >>>> >>>> You are insane. >>> >>>I seem to recall references to "Shock and Awe". >> >> --- >> Of course. What you don't hear about is the clandestine work that's >> being done. You're not supposed to. >> --- >> >>>Doesn't sound like the cops >>>to me - unless it's the nutjob US cops who shoot everything in sight. >> >> --- >> Yup, we've got some bad ones, same like everywhere. > >"Some bad ones" is more than a little disingenuous. The nutjob that made >the quoted words famous is supposed to be the leader of the free world--he's >not supposed to be one of the "bad ones". It really robs him and his >mission of credibility to act like some sort of irresponsible cowboy. --- In the first place, we were talking about 'cops' which, in my view, refers to civilian officers of the law. You're obviously referring to the President of the United States of America, who is a civilian but, nonetheless, the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the United States of America, which places him in a role quite different from that played by a common 'cop', and to try to liken him to a cop strikes me as being a little disingenuous. You may disagree with his policies and those of his staff, but the fact remains that, for better or for worse, those policies will be carried out and there's very little you or I can do to stop that from happening. I suggest that a letter to the White House or an email to: http://answers.firstgov.gov/cgi-bin/gsa_ict.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php might be appropriate if you can spare the time to make your thoughts known to those who matter. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Jim Thompson on 2 Oct 2006 11:04 On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:43:41 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:4520F44A.881C5E16(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >> >>> In article <efqje7$8ss_003(a)s821.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes: >>> >In article <45206C37.EA6475DA(a)hotmail.com>, >>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Western Europe wasn't interested in getting much involved in the >>> >>> anshluss, because it wasn't the target of Nazi expansionism. >>> >> >>> >>All of which has zilch to do with this. >>> > >>> >Your comment is an example of why history has to repeat itself. >>> > >>> Yes, exactly. >> >> There is no exactly about it. >> >> It's just that the American fundamentalist Right has only scare tactics to >> resort to and >> nothing of substance whatever. > > >...and if one chooses to draw parallels between our actions in the Middle >East and 1933-1939 Germany, one parallel is the fact that Bush is using >similar scare tactics to retain power, take away peoples' rights, and kill a >segment of the world population, in much the same propagandistic way that >Hitler did. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bush is the next >Hitler, just that there *are* parallels between their misanthropic behavior, >if hugely different in degree and consequence. > >Eric Lucas > May your US government contract and support be terminated... http://www.analog-innovations.com/SED/WhenInDoubt.jpg ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 11:06 John Larkin wrote: > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:17:53 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > > >" In the United States, popular estimates of spending on aid are often highly > >inflated. Surveys show that people typically think 15-20% of the federal budget is > >spent on aid[1]; the real number is closer to 1%[2]. In absolute terms, the > >$15-20bn of aid compares with $50bn spent annually on the war on drugs and $500bn > >spent on the military........... > > > >Reviewing Latin American Aid, Martha Huggins suggested in 1998 that ?the more > >foreign police aid given [by the US], the more brutal and less democratic the > >police institutions and their governments become. > > > >The United States is the world's largest contributor of ODA in absolute terms > >($15.7 billion, 2003), but the *SMALLEST* among developed countries as a > >percentage of its GDP (0.14% in 2003). The UN target for development aid is 0.7% > >of GDP; currently only five countries (with Norway in the lead with 0.92%) achieve > >this." ( my emphasis ) > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid > > > >Graham > > http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp > > See "side notes on private contributions." Personally, both my wife > and I donate many thousands of dollars to the foreign-aid institutions > we believe in. This year, I will give maybe $20,000 to Doctors Without > Borders. Medecins sans Frontiers as we prefer here. You do this no doubt because you are a decent human being. It helps make up for the lacklustre efforts of your gov't. > How much do you personally donate to things like this? I don't have to account for it thank you and I certainly don't have the kind of income that would allow me to donate anything like you do. We do however have a government that does it on our behalf, not to mention the likes of Oxfam etc... in the 'voluntary sector' who are normally very fast off the mark when need is high. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 11:07 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote > > > > And burn the UN to the ground. > > That might not be a bad idea, but I think on the whole, we do need some sort > of world governing body. We certainly don't need a *governing* body but we do need one that can apply a steadying hand and assit toi resolve conflicts without resort to violence. > You may be right, though, the UN model might not > be the right way to go about it. It's the best we have. Don't knock it too much. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Oct 2006 11:08
John Larkin wrote: > On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:09:14 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > >> Jim Thompson wrote: > >> > > >> > That's where we pretend we like the French ;-) > >> > >> Sorry, Jim, but I'm not THAT good at playing pretend. > > > >Don't worry. The French don't much like your kind of Americans either. > > > >Graham > > Heck, you can hardly get into a roadside rest area bathroom for the > crowds from the French tour busses. On our way back from Monterey, my > wife had to sit shivering at the Junipera Serra rest stop for that > very reason, waiting out a bus full of female French tourists. If you > go to the top of Twin Peaks in San Francisco, the language you're most > likely to overhear is German. > > Stay home! The lines at Peet's Coffee and Joseph Schmidt Chocolate are > long enough already. The attraction of the falling dollar and rising Euro of course. Graham |