From: unsettled on
The Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:19:29 -0600, unsettled did the cha-cha, and
> screamed:
>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>>"Eeyore" wrote...
>>>
>>>>Ken Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't recall anyone saying fundamentalist Muslims were not insane.
>>>>>
>>>>>I did question what we mean by "insane".
>>>>
>>>>Both T Wake and I consider it crazy to believe in a 'God' or
>>>>divine/ultimate being.
>>>>
>>>>Does that make all Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc insane ?
>>>
>>>If you ask me. Yes.
>>
>>Since that is the default human condition, the definition might ought to
>>be reversed if we accept that "insane" equates in some way to "abnormal"
>>or "aberrant."
>>
>>This is precisely why I wanted a differentiation into degrees of insanity.
>
>
> Agnosticism is quite a sane position, IMV.
>
Another form of suspenders and a belt, but yes, sane.


From: Phil Carmody on
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > unsettled wrote:
> >
> >>Eeyore wrote:
> >>
> >>>unsettled wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Eeyore wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>unsettled wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Eeyore pontificated:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Xians who advocate the killing of gays or abortion doctors are precisely
> >>>>>>>>as crazy as Muslims who advocate the killing of Westerners, and just as
> >>>>>>>>dangerous to civilisation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>< snip irrelevance >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Arguably more so since they live in a society that has for the most part moved
> >>>>>>>beyond using murder as a means of imposing its will.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>< snip further irrelevance >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Besides, Christians of all ilk live everywhere in the world,
> >>>>>>so you're doubly wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Christian abortionist killers live exclusively in the USA.
> >>>>
> >>>>To use one of your favorite expressions, "Cite?:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>How about you show me an example outside the USA ? I'm not aware of any.
> >>>
> >>
> >>It is your statement, so it is yours to prove, not for
> >>me to disprove.
> > That would require me to prove a negative which as I'm sure you're
> > aware isn't
> > possible.
>
> We don't know it is a negative till you can prove it.
>
> Care to rephrase the logically offensive statements? It only
> requires the addition of three words.
>
> > So, how about you show me an example outside the USA ? I'm not aware of any.
>
> Don't need to.

Actually, to counter his point, rather than just get pathetically
hissy, you do.

Phil
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From: Phil Carmody on
kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes:
> In article <pan.2007.01.28.13.38.31.131504(a)hell.corn>,
> The Demon Prince of Absurdity <absurd_number_of_nicks(a)hell.corn> wrote:
> [.....]
> >Xians who advocate the killing of gays or abortion doctors are precisely
> >as crazy as Muslims who advocate the killing of Westerners, and just as
> >dangerous to civilisation.
>
> No, they are more dangerous. They are more embedded within the
> civilisation they are attempting to destroy.

I don't know if their intent is to destroy civilisation, but
you make a very interesting, and quite deep, point.

(I think they probably just want to 'fix' civilisation.)

Phil
--
"Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank
so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of
/In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: unsettled on
Phil Carmody wrote:

> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes:
>
>>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Eeyore pontificated:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Xians who advocate the killing of gays or abortion doctors are precisely
>>>>>>>>>>as crazy as Muslims who advocate the killing of Westerners, and just as
>>>>>>>>>>dangerous to civilisation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>< snip irrelevance >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Arguably more so since they live in a society that has for the most part moved
>>>>>>>>>beyond using murder as a means of imposing its will.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>< snip further irrelevance >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Besides, Christians of all ilk live everywhere in the world,
>>>>>>>>so you're doubly wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Christian abortionist killers live exclusively in the USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To use one of your favorite expressions, "Cite?:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>How about you show me an example outside the USA ? I'm not aware of any.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is your statement, so it is yours to prove, not for
>>>>me to disprove.
>>>
>>>That would require me to prove a negative which as I'm sure you're
>>>aware isn't
>>>possible.
>>
>>We don't know it is a negative till you can prove it.
>>
>>Care to rephrase the logically offensive statements? It only
>>requires the addition of three words.
>>
>>
>>>So, how about you show me an example outside the USA ? I'm not aware of any.
>>
>>Don't need to.
>
>
> Actually, to counter his point, rather than just get pathetically
> hissy, you do.

Can you stop being an idiot for a few minutes and try to
follow the discussion? I've been told it is difficult
to keep up in the back.



From: unsettled on
Demon Lord of Confusion wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:25:31 +0000, Eeyore attempted to confuse the issue
> further by squeaking:
>
>>unsettled wrote:
>>
>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>
>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eeyore pontificated:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Xians who advocate the killing of gays or abortion doctors are
>>>>>>>precisely as crazy as Muslims who advocate the killing of
>>>>>>>Westerners, and just as dangerous to civilisation.
>>>>
>>>>< snip irrelevance >
>>>>
>>>>>>Arguably more so since they live in a society that has for the most
>>>>>>part moved beyond using murder as a means of imposing its will.
>>>>
>>>>< snip further irrelevance >
>>>>
>>>>>Besides, Christians of all ilk live everywhere in the world, so you're
>>>>>doubly wrong.
>>>>
>>>>Christian abortionist killers live exclusively in the USA.
>>>
>>>To use one of your favorite expressions, "Cite?:
>>
>>How about you show me an example outside the USA ? I'm not aware of any.
>
>
> Wait, there's Canada, too. There's been the odd shooting here...

He doesn't hate Canada so he'll find some way around this.