From: Eeyore on 28 Jan 2007 13:33 Ken Smith wrote: > T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > I said: > >> Some Christian cults won't even accept blood transfusions. How insane is > >> that if you're condeming someone to die for a belief when life-saving > treatment is > >> readily available ? > > > >I hope that if their god does actually exist, they are all sent to hell. > > That is a completely repugnant suggestion. They believe something, they > may be wrong but the only person they harm as a result is themselves. The > fact that they had no evil intent makes them merely mistaken. The fact > that they harm themselves only with this belief should not mean a trip to > hell. If they were exclusively harming themselves I'd agree but I've heard of instances ( one quite recently ) where parents sought to prevent doctors giving life-saving treatment to their child. I don't recall how that one turned out. Graham
From: Ken Smith on 28 Jan 2007 13:46 In article <epi7b6$8qk_004(a)s804.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >In article <epfvtk$pn5$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: [....] >> >>No. If you go around opening the cage door on rabid pitbulls, you are >>responsible for people getting bitten. > >I'm glad you agree with me about keeping these types locked up. I don't want to also lock up everyone else in the entire world while we do it. That is our argument, not over the ones who are the actual threat. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 28 Jan 2007 13:56 In article <45BBCBFB.59553DE2(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >Which country has invaded the US? >> >> Pakistan. Didn't you hear about 7/11. :) >> >> Note to nonUSAians: Yes, that is a joke. 7/11 is a type of store and a >> stereotype is that they are run by pakistanies. > >But Apu is Indian ! That's old news on the stereotype parade. > >Graham > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 28 Jan 2007 14:28 In article <2b4$45b5f6db$4fe7715$21843(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: > >> In article <zISdnY4yq_45cinYRVnyiQA(a)pipex.net>, >> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> [....] >> >>>>We can only hold ourselves accountable for our actions, not >>>>those of insurgents and terrorists. So what is it you're >>>>actually trying to say here. I smell doublespeak. >>> >>>I thought he was referring to the treatment of Iraqi prisoners taken by the >>>US forces, and the treatment of people at Guantanamo. I may be wrong. >> >> >> Yes exactly. The US needs to hold to its standards in what it does. > >What the US does is what the de facto standard of US conduct is. I guess this is unfortunately true. It does lead to the unfortunate suggestion that there is nothing about the US worth fighting for. If each time that US steps to a lower level, that becomes the standard, there is no standard at all and thus nothing worth fighting for. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: unsettled on 28 Jan 2007 15:08
Ken Smith wrote: > In article <45BBC61A.51BF754C(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >>Ken Smith wrote: >> >> >>>T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I don't recall anyone saying fundamentalist Muslims were not insane. >>> >>>I did question what we mean by "insane". >> >>Both T Wake and I consider it crazy to believe in a 'God' or divine/ultimate >>being. >> >>Does that make all Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc insane ? > > > No, because your opinion doesn't matter to God. :) > > Or anyone else for that matter. |