From: Eeyore on


Ken Smith wrote:

> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> I said:
> >> Some Christian cults won't even accept blood transfusions. How insane is
> >> that if you're condeming someone to die for a belief when life-saving
> treatment is
> >> readily available ?
> >
> >I hope that if their god does actually exist, they are all sent to hell.
>
> That is a completely repugnant suggestion. They believe something, they
> may be wrong but the only person they harm as a result is themselves. The
> fact that they had no evil intent makes them merely mistaken. The fact
> that they harm themselves only with this belief should not mean a trip to
> hell.

If they were exclusively harming themselves I'd agree but I've heard of instances
( one quite recently ) where parents sought to prevent doctors giving life-saving
treatment to their child. I don't recall how that one turned out.

Graham

From: Ken Smith on
In article <epi7b6$8qk_004(a)s804.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <epfvtk$pn5$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
[....]
>>
>>No. If you go around opening the cage door on rabid pitbulls, you are
>>responsible for people getting bitten.
>
>I'm glad you agree with me about keeping these types locked up.

I don't want to also lock up everyone else in the entire world while we do
it. That is our argument, not over the ones who are the actual threat.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <45BBCBFB.59553DE2(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Which country has invaded the US?
>>
>> Pakistan. Didn't you hear about 7/11. :)
>>
>> Note to nonUSAians: Yes, that is a joke. 7/11 is a type of store and a
>> stereotype is that they are run by pakistanies.
>
>But Apu is Indian !


That's old news on the stereotype parade.

>
>Graham
>


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From: Ken Smith on
In article <2b4$45b5f6db$4fe7715$21843(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> In article <zISdnY4yq_45cinYRVnyiQA(a)pipex.net>,
>> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>> [....]
>>
>>>>We can only hold ourselves accountable for our actions, not
>>>>those of insurgents and terrorists. So what is it you're
>>>>actually trying to say here. I smell doublespeak.
>>>
>>>I thought he was referring to the treatment of Iraqi prisoners taken by the
>>>US forces, and the treatment of people at Guantanamo. I may be wrong.
>>
>>
>> Yes exactly. The US needs to hold to its standards in what it does.
>
>What the US does is what the de facto standard of US conduct is.

I guess this is unfortunately true. It does lead to the unfortunate
suggestion that there is nothing about the US worth fighting for. If each
time that US steps to a lower level, that becomes the standard, there is
no standard at all and thus nothing worth fighting for.


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From: unsettled on
Ken Smith wrote:

> In article <45BBC61A.51BF754C(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Ken Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I don't recall anyone saying fundamentalist Muslims were not insane.
>>>
>>>I did question what we mean by "insane".
>>
>>Both T Wake and I consider it crazy to believe in a 'God' or divine/ultimate
>>being.
>>
>>Does that make all Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc insane ?
>
>
> No, because your opinion doesn't matter to God. :)
>
>
Or anyone else for that matter.