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From: Ken Smith on 28 Jan 2007 18:02 In article <45BCF8F8.88576559(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Ken Smith wrote: [....] >> I'd say less. Iran will fall out of the hand of the extremists in the >> next 20 or so years if left alone. With Bush's help, they will maintain >> control for much longer than that. > >I'll venture to suggets that but for Bush's idiotic 'axis of evil' speech, Iran >wouldn't be a problem today even. I think you would be expecting it to happen a little too quickly. The voices of moderation need to get rid of the Council of Gaurdians. This will take a little time. Then they need to get politicans elected who will move the country forwards. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 28 Jan 2007 18:19 In article <2a47b$45bd0bc5$49ed0c7$8050(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: > >> In article <2b4$45b5f6db$4fe7715$21843(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>>Ken Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <zISdnY4yq_45cinYRVnyiQA(a)pipex.net>, >>>>T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>>[....] >>>> >>>> >>>>>>We can only hold ourselves accountable for our actions, not >>>>>>those of insurgents and terrorists. So what is it you're >>>>>>actually trying to say here. I smell doublespeak. >>>>> >>>>>I thought he was referring to the treatment of Iraqi prisoners taken by the >>>>>US forces, and the treatment of people at Guantanamo. I may be wrong. >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes exactly. The US needs to hold to its standards in what it does. >>> >>>What the US does is what the de facto standard of US conduct is. >> >> >> I guess this is unfortunately true. It does lead to the unfortunate >> suggestion that there is nothing about the US worth fighting for. If each >> time that US steps to a lower level, that becomes the standard, there is >> no standard at all and thus nothing worth fighting for. >> >> >That sort of value system is well suited to you. No, that would be your value system, not mine. I believe that there are core values that are worth fighting for. It seems you don't. > > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: unsettled on 28 Jan 2007 19:21 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>Eeyore wrote: >> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>> >>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Eeyore pontificated: >>>>>> >>>>>>>The Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Xians who advocate the killing of gays or abortion doctors are precisely >>>>>>>>as crazy as Muslims who advocate the killing of Westerners, and just as >>>>>>>>dangerous to civilisation. >>>>> >>>>>< snip irrelevance > >>>>> >>>>>>>Arguably more so since they live in a society that has for the most part moved >>>>>>>beyond using murder as a means of imposing its will. >>>>> >>>>>< snip further irrelevance > >>>>> >>>>>>Besides, Christians of all ilk live everywhere in the world, >>>>>>so you're doubly wrong. >>>>> >>>>>Christian abortionist killers live exclusively in the USA. >>>> >>>>To use one of your favorite expressions, "Cite?: >>> >>> >>>How about you show me an example outside the USA ? I'm not aware of any. >>> >> >>It is your statement, so it is yours to prove, not for >>me to disprove. > > > That would require me to prove a negative which as I'm sure you're aware isn't > possible. We don't know it is a negative till you can prove it. Care to rephrase the logically offensive statements? It only requires the addition of three words. > So, how about you show me an example outside the USA ? I'm not aware of any. Don't need to.
From: unsettled on 28 Jan 2007 19:25 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:45BCEC61.5E1C6C68(a)hotmail.com... > >> >>Ken Smith wrote: >> >> >>>T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>I said: >>> >>>>>Some Christian cults won't even accept blood transfusions. How insane >>>>>is >>>>>that if you're condeming someone to die for a belief when life-saving >>> >>>treatment is >>> >>>>>readily available ? >>>> >>>>I hope that if their god does actually exist, they are all sent to hell. >>> >>>That is a completely repugnant suggestion. They believe something, they >>>may be wrong but the only person they harm as a result is themselves. >>>The >>>fact that they had no evil intent makes them merely mistaken. The fact >>>that they harm themselves only with this belief should not mean a trip to >>>hell. >> >>If they were exclusively harming themselves I'd agree but I've heard of >>instances >>( one quite recently ) where parents sought to prevent doctors giving >>life-saving >>treatment to their child. I don't recall how that one turned out. >> > > > Generally the children die and often in pain. This same mindset encourages > the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa and prevents new lines of research being > investigated. All on the whim of an invisible friend no one has really heard > from in 2000 years. LOL. You've fallen into a logical trap right behind Eeyore. If someone heard from the invisible friend ~2000 years ago you're acknowledging the dual nature of a famous individual. Are you sure you want to go there? > Sometimes my toaster gives me this sort of advice but I have learned to > ignore it.
From: unsettled on 28 Jan 2007 19:26
Eeyore wrote: > > mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > > >> Would Germany have come on its own couple centuries earlier > > > There wasn't a Germany centuries earlier. Irrelevant. |