From: Ken Smith on 31 Jan 2007 09:58 In article <5t-dna_xAOwBIiLYnZ2dnUVZ8taknZ2d(a)pipex.net>, T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: [.....] >> Come on now, they have to play to the electorate. > >That is why a real regime change would be a winner in my book :-) There could be a change for the worse. Not all regime change is for the better. Right now the direction seems to be for the better. Bush only has 2 more years. He can make a very big mess in that much time but given a few hundred years the US should recover. > > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 31 Jan 2007 10:04 In article <38e09$45bfba79$49ecf90$4084(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >T Wake wrote: > [....] >>>>>>Not dealing with Iran right now will let start an atomic war >>>>>>in that area. >>>>> >>>>>At the very least, another nuclear race. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Not much of a race though. It would be a like a marathon where one person >>>>starts at the 26 mile point and the other one at the 1 mile point. >>> >>>Not a nuclear race with the US, but with all new players. > >> Who then? > >Trust me, someone will emerge who doesn't want Iran to >have an advantage. It happens every time. It's the law! :-) I say the Saudi government is the most likely. Israel would start at the finish line so you can't really call that a race. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 31 Jan 2007 10:07 In article <waqdnY0zaPAsNiLYRVnyhQA(a)pipex.net>, T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message >news:epnm4l$df5$4(a)blue.rahul.net... >> In article <45BE8D83.976CEBA6(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> [.....] >>>> Same question could be asked of Cain and Abel. Although every time I try >>>> asking priest or vicars they get annoyed with me. >>> >>>I just discovered he lived to be 950 yrs old too ! Maybe he was a space >>>alien ? >> >> If you assume as I do that some confused months and years, he made it to >> 79 which is old enough to get remarked on. > >This is close to special pleading. The holy text is specific enough at >times, yet for something quite simple like days and nights it gets confused? If you assume it is mostly a record of what people thought were the facts, then you can see how such things happen. When a story moves by word of mouth between a culture that counts time in months and one that uses years, the result can be such confusions. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Phil Carmody on 31 Jan 2007 10:07 Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > > >> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal > > >> >> >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds > > >> >> >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that > > >> >> >>all people can do anything they want without punishment. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues. > > >> >> > > >> >> Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time. > > >> > > > >> >And in wartime too. > > >> > > >> No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how > > >> much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII. > > > > > >Nonsense. > > > > > >How about an example ? > > > > Food coupons. > > In exactly what meaningful way is that a loss of 'freedom' ? > > Rationing continued after the war btw. In fact it continued after the war longer than the entire length of the war itself. So it was more of a peacetime thing than a wartime thing, chronologically speaking. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./.
From: Ken Smith on 31 Jan 2007 10:10
In article <a557c$45bfbb21$49ecf90$4084(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >T Wake wrote: > >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >> news:5eaf0$45bfb26f$49ecf90$3729(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >>>T Wake wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message >>>>news:epnm4l$df5$4(a)blue.rahul.net... >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <45BE8D83.976CEBA6(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>[.....] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>Same question could be asked of Cain and Abel. Although every time I >>>>>>>try >>>>>>>asking priest or vicars they get annoyed with me. >>>>>> >>>>>>I just discovered he lived to be 950 yrs old too ! Maybe he was a space >>>>>>alien ? >>>>> >>>>>If you assume as I do that some confused months and years, he made it to >>>>>79 which is old enough to get remarked on. >>>> >>>> >>>>This is close to special pleading. The holy text is specific enough at >>>>times, yet for something quite simple like days and nights it gets >>>>confused? >>> >>>How many translations/transcriptions in ~5000 years? >> >> >> That is the special pleading. The plea that Commandment X has survived and >> is the word of God, but Y has suffered a transcription error. > >We don't know that there weren't more or fewer commandments. >We don't know that today's commandment X is anything like >the original, if there was one. They just found a new single page in a dig in Israel. It appears to belong as the first page of the bible. When translateed it reads: For my wife Buffy. All characters portrayed are fictional any similarity between the characters and persons living or dead are coincidental. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |