From: Ken Smith on
In article <5t-dna_xAOwBIiLYnZ2dnUVZ8taknZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
[.....]
>> Come on now, they have to play to the electorate.
>
>That is why a real regime change would be a winner in my book :-)

There could be a change for the worse. Not all regime change is for the
better. Right now the direction seems to be for the better. Bush only
has 2 more years. He can make a very big mess in that much time but given
a few hundred years the US should recover.


>
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From: Ken Smith on
In article <38e09$45bfba79$49ecf90$4084(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>T Wake wrote:
>
[....]
>>>>>>Not dealing with Iran right now will let start an atomic war
>>>>>>in that area.
>>>>>
>>>>>At the very least, another nuclear race.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Not much of a race though. It would be a like a marathon where one person
>>>>starts at the 26 mile point and the other one at the 1 mile point.
>>>
>>>Not a nuclear race with the US, but with all new players.
>
>> Who then?
>
>Trust me, someone will emerge who doesn't want Iran to
>have an advantage. It happens every time. It's the law! :-)


I say the Saudi government is the most likely. Israel would start at the
finish line so you can't really call that a race.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <waqdnY0zaPAsNiLYRVnyhQA(a)pipex.net>,
T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
>news:epnm4l$df5$4(a)blue.rahul.net...
>> In article <45BE8D83.976CEBA6(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> [.....]
>>>> Same question could be asked of Cain and Abel. Although every time I try
>>>> asking priest or vicars they get annoyed with me.
>>>
>>>I just discovered he lived to be 950 yrs old too ! Maybe he was a space
>>>alien ?
>>
>> If you assume as I do that some confused months and years, he made it to
>> 79 which is old enough to get remarked on.
>
>This is close to special pleading. The holy text is specific enough at
>times, yet for something quite simple like days and nights it gets confused?

If you assume it is mostly a record of what people thought were the facts,
then you can see how such things happen. When a story moves by word of
mouth between a culture that counts time in months and one that uses
years, the result can be such confusions.

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From: Phil Carmody on
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes:
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> > >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
> > >> >> > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>Even a representative democracy needs to have some way to deal
> > >> >> >>with the people who go after little kids, and make other kinds
> > >> >> >>of messes. A democracy does not, and never has, meant that
> > >> >> >>all people can do anything they want without punishment.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Democracies create laws and enforce them to deal with such issues.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Those laws apply to the citizens of that country during peace time.
> > >> >
> > >> >And in wartime too.
> > >>
> > >> No. You need to learn about your country's war powers and how
> > >> much of your peacetime freedoms were suspended during WWII.
> > >
> > >Nonsense.
> > >
> > >How about an example ?
> >
> > Food coupons.
>
> In exactly what meaningful way is that a loss of 'freedom' ?
>
> Rationing continued after the war btw.

In fact it continued after the war longer than the entire
length of the war itself. So it was more of a peacetime
thing than a wartime thing, chronologically speaking.

Phil
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From: Ken Smith on
In article <a557c$45bfbb21$49ecf90$4084(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>T Wake wrote:
>
>> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>> news:5eaf0$45bfb26f$49ecf90$3729(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>
>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:epnm4l$df5$4(a)blue.rahul.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article <45BE8D83.976CEBA6(a)hotmail.com>,
>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>[.....]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Same question could be asked of Cain and Abel. Although every time I
>>>>>>>try
>>>>>>>asking priest or vicars they get annoyed with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I just discovered he lived to be 950 yrs old too ! Maybe he was a space
>>>>>>alien ?
>>>>>
>>>>>If you assume as I do that some confused months and years, he made it to
>>>>>79 which is old enough to get remarked on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This is close to special pleading. The holy text is specific enough at
>>>>times, yet for something quite simple like days and nights it gets
>>>>confused?
>>>
>>>How many translations/transcriptions in ~5000 years?
>>
>>
>> That is the special pleading. The plea that Commandment X has survived and
>> is the word of God, but Y has suffered a transcription error.
>
>We don't know that there weren't more or fewer commandments.
>We don't know that today's commandment X is anything like
>the original, if there was one.

They just found a new single page in a dig in Israel. It appears to
belong as the first page of the bible. When translateed it reads:

For my wife Buffy.
All characters portrayed are fictional any
similarity between the characters and persons
living or dead are coincidental.


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