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From: Eeyore on 31 Jan 2007 10:47 Ken Smith wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >> > > >> >Extradition treaties allow the arrest and deportation of criminals who > >> >have traveled to a different country. They exist because most countries > >> >don't want to be a safe haven for criminals. > >> > >> They have to exist because one country's law cannot apply to > >> another country's law. Criminal law is locally defined. > >> Extradition treaties define a few acts of commission that both countries > >> agree to call illegal. > > > >You are *completely* wrong. Extradition was never mean to be about the > >extra-territorial application of law although the USA now seems to think it can > >use it that way. > > Actually I disagree with you on this. You are not talking about BAH's > mistake. She confuses being arrested with having broken a law. Some > laws contain an extra-territorial component. These are usually laws > against things that everyone agrees are bad. The Germans have laws > against war crimes that apply to people outside their country. They need > them to make it so that war criminals can be arrested etc. > > >Extradition has always traditionally been about the return of a suspected > >criminal to the country in which the crime was committed. > > An example of that not being the case is where the person leaves the > country and commits the crime in another country but is still subject to > the law in the first country. A lot of countries have treason laws that > work like that. If the person then goes to a third country, they can be > arrested and sent back to the first even though the crime was actually > committed in the second. I consider that use to be very contentious. So do the 'Natwset 3'. Interestingly, the treaty that allowed their extradition isn't reciprocated by the USA. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5163982.stm Graham
From: Cranks Reply on 31 Jan 2007 10:47 On Jan 31, 12:32 pm, jmfbah...(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <a_WdnXJGRKBVMiLYRVny...(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es...(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > ><jmfbah...(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >news:epnqqm$8ss_017(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >> In article <MvidnQbxmY5PSCHYnZ2dnUVZ8sSrn...(a)pipex.net>, > >> "T Wake" <usenet.es...(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >>><jmfbah...(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >>>news:epi5ci$8ss_002(a)s804.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > > >>>> I'm trying to address a mistaken assumption these people are > >>>> making. Their idea of war is when two highly organized groups, > >>>> each funded and supplied by a single government, meet on > >>>> a field somewhere and shoot at each other; thus, conflicts of > >>>> any other nature has to be treated as criminal and apply > >>>> a country's criminal law to each individual. > > >>>Oh dear. The last two weeks of posts have vanished out of your memory now, > >>>haven't they? > > >> I'm still working on the original problem; I haven't solved it. > > >While you are doing that you can remind us what the purpose of the Geneva > >convention is (in your opinion) > > It was an argreement among countries about the rules of fighting > were when they were fighting each other. Boxing, or any sport, > does the same thing. This is a Western idea. > are you REALLY this stupid?
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From: T Wake on 31 Jan 2007 11:56 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:epq4ij$8qk_002(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <epl4vl$6ev$13(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>In article <87odoiujjt.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org>, >>Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes: >>>> In article <87ac02wtac.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org>, >>>> Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) writes: >>>> >> In article <pan.2007.01.28.13.38.31.131504(a)hell.corn>, >>>> >> The Demon Prince of Absurdity <absurd_number_of_nicks(a)hell.corn> > wrote: >>>> >> [.....] >>>> >> >Xians who advocate the killing of gays or abortion doctors are > precisely >>>> >> >as crazy as Muslims who advocate the killing of Westerners, and >>>> >> >just > as >>>> >> >dangerous to civilisation. >>>> >> >>>> >> No, they are more dangerous. They are more embedded within the >>>> >> civilisation they are attempting to destroy. >>>> > >>>> >I don't know if their intent is to destroy civilisation, but >>>> >you make a very interesting, and quite deep, point. >>>> > >>>> >(I think they probably just want to 'fix' civilisation.) >>>> >>>> The muslims also just want to "fix" it to fit their model of what it >>>> should be. If you crush a car melt it down and make several bicycles >>>> out >>>> of it, I would argue you have destroeyed the car to make bicycles. >>> >>>What if you just rip out the engine, and hitch up a couple of horses >>>or oxen to the front? And remove the materialistic and immoral car >>>radio, of course! >> >>Based on the radio programming around here, removing the engine and the >>radio may be a fair trade. > > When I was in Turkey, I took a picture. It had a car, camel and > donkey parked under one tree. It struck me that, no matter > what happens in the rest of the world, these people had the > infrastructure to cope with all possible events, other than > complete local destruction. > > I suggest you get rid of your arrogance and begin to think. That is one of the funniest posts I have read in this thread in quite some time.
From: T Wake on 31 Jan 2007 12:02
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:epq6t0$8qk_006(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <45BF4AF7.6D3EA07(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> I don't expect them to do a damned thing about Iran's atomic >>> bombs. >> >>Iran has no atomic bombs. > > The news was reported that Iran started up their > centrifuges this week. > > Just out of curiosity, do you keep a stick of TNT from blowing > up by pulling the lit fuse when the fire is 1/4" away from > the stick or by storing the fuses and the sticks in separate > buildings? If the fuses are imaginary, you can store them where ever you want. |