From: T Wake on 31 Jan 2007 12:49 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:epq85t$8qk_014(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <RfqdnYHXoq0YMyLYRVnyjQA(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:epnhp6$8qk_008(a)s827.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > <snip> > >>Is that why you have ignored the rest of the comments and questions people >>have directed towards you? > > I ignore most of the posts where you have tried to rewrite > what I wrote. Ok, so you have accounted for maybe 1 in 20. What about the others? If I have tried to re-write your posts in a manner you did not intend, then I am sorry, but you may want to consider I am simply summarising the things you say. If my summary is wildly off what you intended, you might want to think about how you word things. Critically, often you disagree with things you have written yourself - which can be see word for word in the posting chain. You really need to address this. > Eeyore has fallen for your tricks but not many > others have. Interesting projectionism.
From: T Wake on 31 Jan 2007 12:54 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45C0A612.4B14CE39(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>Now implement the production line that is so perfect all leaks >> >>>>can't get out. >> >>> >> >>>It shouldn't be the job of the production line. >> >> >> >> Think about it. The production line has to be designed so >> >> that the process doesn't leave any seam untoned. >> > >> >OP's designs never see line level production. >> >> Possibly. It's not clear since he talks like a tech. Most >> in this working category don't know how the rest of the >> company works. > > Good Lord ! > > You're startlingly ignorant of modern manufacturing. Three excess words there.
From: T Wake on 31 Jan 2007 12:57 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45C09F6B.46D4D525(a)hotmail.com... > <snip> > > If you guys want the death penalty then you'll have to accept some > restrictions > on who we'll extradite to you. > In theory, no one. The UK is not supposed to extradite anyone to any country if the death penalty is on the cards.
From: T Wake on 31 Jan 2007 12:59 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45C0BA04.96E83750(a)hotmail.com... > > > Ken Smith wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >> > >> >> >Extradition treaties allow the arrest and deportation of criminals >> >> >who >> >> >have traveled to a different country. They exist because most >> >> >countries >> >> >don't want to be a safe haven for criminals. >> >> >> >> They have to exist because one country's law cannot apply to >> >> another country's law. Criminal law is locally defined. >> >> Extradition treaties define a few acts of commission that both >> >> countries >> >> agree to call illegal. >> > >> >You are *completely* wrong. Extradition was never mean to be about the >> >extra-territorial application of law although the USA now seems to think >> >it can >> >use it that way. >> >> Actually I disagree with you on this. You are not talking about BAH's >> mistake. She confuses being arrested with having broken a law. Some >> laws contain an extra-territorial component. These are usually laws >> against things that everyone agrees are bad. The Germans have laws >> against war crimes that apply to people outside their country. They need >> them to make it so that war criminals can be arrested etc. >> >> >Extradition has always traditionally been about the return of a >> >suspected >> >criminal to the country in which the crime was committed. >> >> An example of that not being the case is where the person leaves the >> country and commits the crime in another country but is still subject to >> the law in the first country. A lot of countries have treason laws that >> work like that. If the person then goes to a third country, they can be >> arrested and sent back to the first even though the crime was actually >> committed in the second. > > I consider that use to be very contentious. So do the 'Natwset 3'. > > Interestingly, the treaty that allowed their extradition isn't > reciprocated by the > USA. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5163982.stm Wisely, the US have negotiated lots of one sided treaties.
From: T Wake on 31 Jan 2007 13:03
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:epq572$8qk_005(a)s856.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <9O-dnccev9rnqyPYRVnyhAA(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:epktga$8qk_005(a)s957.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <epg0g5$pn5$3(a)blue.rahul.net>, >>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>>>In article <45BB5BCC.CA4B3110(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>[.....] >>>>>> You keep insisting that the people who want to destroy Western >>>>>> civilization are criminals. Under whose law? >>>>> >>>>>The relevant law of the land in question. >>>> >>>>Also, I believe they violated German law too. Even when they did not >>>>act >>>>in Germany. >>> >>> But they didn't violate their own. >> >>So what. If a German comes to the UK and drives at 80MPH on the motorway >>he >>has broken the law and the police can take action. > > Only in specified cases can police take action. At the moment > I'm thinking about diplomatic immunity. > It is interesting you say "only in specified cases." What do you think are the specified cases where the police *can* take action. Please list them all. The reality is that only in specified cases can the police *not* take action, so as is often the case you have it completely opposite. Can you see the difference in your terminology or am I hitting my head against a wall here? As an aside, the police can still take action for speeding even if the car is diplomatic plated and the driver has immunity. The action would be, for example, a �30 and 3 points. The embassy can choose to pay or ignore the punishment. If they choose to ignore lots, the police request the responsible diplomat is PNG'd out of the country. |