From: jmfbahciv on 3 Feb 2007 08:00 In article <nfq7s2948g6e6mr7d2d6hi9hs8cef3gvev(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Fri, 02 Feb 07 17:14:03 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>I've thought about getting a new stove but I haven't figured out >>how to find one that doesn't interfere with radio. > > > That should tell you something. > > Well... that *would* tell any cognizant human something. > > The diagnosis doesn't get any more simple from that point. Sigh! How do you negotiate with males that, if the stove they deliver interferes with the radio, they will have to go back and get another one that won't. It's already a difficult job to buy stuff from salesmen. Trying to explain the restrictions of the sale would be impossible. Look at the trouble you have understanding the problem. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 3 Feb 2007 08:02 In article <hvp7s2hej8u9mdideeerdn08umju4bpksi(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Fri, 02 Feb 07 15:23:56 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>In article <c76aa$45c347bc$49ecf7f$10679(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> In article <a0629$45c29c9e$49ecf9f$6118(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>MassiveProng wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 01 Feb 07 12:46:52 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>It isn't the burners. It is the computer board in the stove that >>>>>>>is bad. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The stove has a clock, a cooking timer, and maybe some thermal probe >>>>>>monitoring ports. That isn't a computer. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>If you want good AM reception, you need a good loop antenna. That >>>>>>>>will keep the reception constant. Otherwise you have a serious issue >>>>>>>>with your house wiring. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I dismissed the wiring because no other object plugged does >>>>>>>this. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The stove is not like ANY of the objects you describe. You have no >>>>>>AC powered object in the house that is wired like, or gets its power >>>>>>from the same branch... as the stove. It has its own SEPERATE AC >>>>>>run. >>>>>> >>>>>> So you didn't even get that right. >>>>> >>>>>Might be a gas stove, dumbbell. >>>> >>>> >>>> It's an electric stove. >>> >>> >>>Your hands aren't all that weak then, unplugging >>>a NEMA 10-50 or equivalent requires some strength >>>especially considering the cord usually comes out >>>of the plug at a right angle. >> >>It comes out straight up from the floor. I've learned >>how to cope with weakening hands. My problems now >>are the arm muscles; it seems I can't pull nor push anymore. >>So I now have get down on my hands and knees and, instead of >>pulling up, I wriggle the thing back and forth. >> >>One of my projects is to find an electrician and have him a damned >>switch on the thing. >> > > Probably be cheaper to get one to FIND and SOLVE the problem. > > D'OH! The stove people failed at this. Why should I pay someone else $100/hour to come to the same conclusion? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 3 Feb 2007 08:03 In article <5po7s2pvv0mm76o120ufjqj9glb783kljl(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Fri, 02 Feb 07 14:05:53 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>>Here's one with an embedded computer: >>> >>>http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/AGR5725RD.html >> >>Everything has a damned computer these days. > > > Your stove, nor the one he put a link up for has a computer in it. Sigh! Even my oil burner has a bloody computer board now. Nothing is mechanical. You can't find any appliance with knobs anymore. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 3 Feb 2007 08:05 In article <cro7s29j7rct4asr8f16nvllhm1ilcslav(a)4ax.com>, MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >On Fri, 02 Feb 07 14:14:16 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: > >>In article <45C1FCA1.837E5319(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>>> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us: >>>> >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Device off, sensors read baseline noise reading. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Device on, sensors read local differential. Extrapolations get >>>> >>>made, figures get arrived at. Task complete. >>>> >> >>>> >>No wonder my stove doesn't work. >>>> > >>>> > It is your brain that isn't working. >>>> >>>> Most devices these days are in warm start mode. Instead >>>> of measuring before and after power-on, the tests need >>>> to measure before and after _plug-in_. >>> >>>Nothing is measured when it isn't plugged in ! >> >>Sigh! You can't see the bug in establishing the background >>noise base? >> >>Hint. I get the problem with the stove the moment when I plug it into >>the pigtail. I don't have to turn it on. > > > If you are plugging your stove into a pig tail, your local fire >department should come take you away to jail. Well, unsettled was right; you don't know how to do this stuff. > At the very least, the nice young men in their clean white coats >should come visit you. I think you should find out what a pigtail is before you dig yourself deeper. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 3 Feb 2007 08:06
In article <45C36C1B.D9309767(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >> >unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> Gave us: >> >>Eeyore wrote: >> >> >> >>> The standards do not use the word 'unplugged'. >> >> >> >>What word meaning unplugged do you find in your standards then? >> > >> > If you knew anything about the industry, you would know. >> > >> > The words I chose were quite sufficient, and quite literal. Powered >> >off means powered off, not some off the top of your retarded little >> >brains' bullshit standby mode creeping in. >> >> Powered off is not the same as unplugged. No matter how you want >> to squirm, techs would read 'powered off' in the procedures and >> just hit the power button, then take the base-line measurement. > >You are completely wrong. Not really. It would explain the condition. /BAH |