From: krw on
In article <eq23j4$8qk_002(a)s939.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says...
> In article <gm08s2luj0mrj73m00vt7isc8sb4kvt630(a)4ax.com>,
> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
> >On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:11:52 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com>
> >Gave us:
> >
> >>MassiveProng wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 02 Feb 07 14:04:45 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>In article <8e65s297p2fs3tfodc3mk1rmqu2phstukv(a)4ax.com>,
> >>>> MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Thu, 01 Feb 07 12:46:52 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>It isn't the burners. It is the computer board in the stove that
> >>>>>>is bad.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The stove has a clock, a cooking timer, and maybe some thermal probe
> >>>>>monitoring ports. That isn't a computer.
> >>>>
> >>>>It has one board.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Which incorporates all the items I listed above. Being a single
> >>> board STILL does NOT make it a computer.
> >>>
> >>> Nice attempt at a sidestep, though.
> >>
> >>Your definitions are, to coin a phrase, unique.
> >
> > You're an idiot. I work in the industry.
> >
> > It would be termed a micro-controller, at best.
> >
> > STILL NOT a computer.
> >
> >>"An electronic device for the storage and processing of information."
> >
> > A calculator would fit the definition. It isn't a computer either.
> >It IS a calculator.
> >
> > The controller in an oven is a micro-controller, nothing more.
> >
> > The consumer device has to have Windows CE or the like on it, and
> >have a user interface with a gui to BE a computer.
>
> <spluttering emoticon wipes oatmeal off screen>

Come on BAH! Didn't the PDP-10 run Windows CE?
>
> I thought you claimed to be in the computer manfuacturing biz?

Don't bother with Dimbulb (AKA FatBytestard, DarkMatter, and a
thousand other forgettable nyms). He's done and knows everything.
Any discussions are a waste of time.

> > Otherwise, it is
> >no more than fancy CONTROL hardware.
> >
> > You really have more people laughing at you than you realize.
>
> Riiight.

Well, there is one, evidently.

--
Keith
From: MassiveProng on
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 19:31:13 -0000, "T Wake"
<usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us:

>
>"Phil Carmody" <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:87irejdu1g.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org...
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
>>> In article <87ps8sgifg.fsf(a)nonospaz.fatphil.org>,
>>> Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes:
>>> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>> >> >What nations do you think are "not dealing" with Iran?
>>> >>
>>> >> Bush has given Europe the job to deal with Iran's stubborness.
>>> >> They are the ones who have been bitching that the US doesn't
>>> >> know how to do this stuff.
>>> >
>>> >In what way was that supposed to be an answer to the question
>>> >asked?
>>> >
>>> >I should probably expect as an answer to my enquiry something
>>> >like "milky way!".
>>>
>>> In case you haven't noticed, the old "Free European" countries
>>> now hide behind acting as a conglomerate when the task is
>>> politically incorrect.
>>
>> Are you on mind-altering drugs?
>
>If the answer (if we ever get one) to this is "no" there is a good argument
>for getting her some.
>
Lithium!

Shoes for industry! (Shoes for the dead)

-firesign theater, Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers
From: Eeyore on


mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

> Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu writes:
> >
> >> Aha. And what was required was the knowledge that fission reaction is
> >> possible, that it is exotermic and that it produces neutrons which
> >> can generate further fissions. All of this knowledge came from
> >> experiment, not theory. So, as you see, theory doesn't always come
> >> before practice. In fact, quite often it doesn't.
> >
> >The two go closely hand in hand.
>
> Nobody here claimed they don't. Only that the statement "first theory
> then practice" is not in generally true. There were lots of cases
> when it was the other way around.

You mean that apples still fell to the ground before the theory of gravity was established ?

Now, if seriously exothermic nuclear reactions occurred naturally on Earth then you might have a point that you
also need no theory to make a nuclear reactor.

It's not that way though.

Graham

From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45C4E466.6E8C1F62(a)hotmail.com...
>
>
> T Wake wrote:
>
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>> >>Eeyore wrote:
>> >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>> >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>They [Muslims] can't even buy shoes unless the shoe has been
>> >>>>>>approved by
>> the >>>>>>clerics (I think those are the people who do this work).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Really? I can find no example of this being true. Can you support
>> >>>>>the
>> >>>>> claim that Islam dictates what shoes people can wear?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Of the three Abraham-based religions, only Christianity doesn't
>> >>>>have rules about living styles.
>> >>>
>> >>> More obfuscation. Did you take a course in not answering the question
>> >>> btw ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Can you support the claim that Islam dictates what shoes people can
>> >>> wear
>> >>> ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Graham
>> >>>
>> >>http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/072.sbt.html
>> >
>> > Thank you. I can't get out today to check the blurb; but I'll trust
>> > your judgement.
>>
>> This creates an interesting quandary. It appears from this, that you
>> (BAH)
>> had no idea where (if anywhere) in the Koran the requirement for shoes to
>> be
>> approved by a cleric existed.
>
> I can find no such suggestion in the link. It does say Muslims mustn't
> wear one
> shoe for sure.....
>

There is a bit where it talks about what to do if you don't have sandals,
but I am intrigued that BAH has made the original claim, yet can not support
it, and has relied on unsettled to do the research.


From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> T Wake wrote:
>
>> I very much doubt BAH will respond to explain why she thinks rationing
>> lasted for three decades after the war, which is a shame as it could be
>> bloody entertaining.
>
> She's been on this tack before.
>
> ISTR she had the idea that Margaret Thatcher ended rationing.

Ah.

Amazing grasp on reality.