From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 17:32 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > > >> > Israel can only 'win' by erasing Lebanon. > >> > > >> > Is that what you want ? > >> > >> What alternative do they have? Until the Palestinians and Arabs can > >> accept > >> Israel's existence, Israel can not hold off on its defensive posture. > >> > >> Do you advocate Israel surrender? > > > > Many Arab nations have sorted this one out. We really do need to bash the > > Israeli and Palestinian heads together. > > The Palestinians have been offered the same all other Arab nation have been > offered. > > Is there ever going to be an acceptable midde ground? There will *have* to be ! > > Whilst Israel continues to get a blank cheque from the USA it's not going > > to happen of course. > > Maybe. Hard to think of a reason why the US should abandon it's support of > Israel though. What does the USA get out of it ? Apart from terrorist attacks ? Graham
From: Homer J Simpson on 5 Oct 2006 17:34 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:1eqdnZ1tVIQ66bjYRVny2A(a)pipex.net... >> And what percentage of Americans have ever been further than Canada or >> Mexico? Or have even left their own state? > > Most US states are about the same size as England. I am sure a significant > percentage of English people have never left England. I am equally sure a > larger percentage have never been more than three timezones away or to two > different climatic zones. Americans can manage this within their borders. I don't think you need a ferry to get from Arizona to Nevada.
From: Eeyore on 5 Oct 2006 17:35 John Fields wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Fine. So I'm never going to have the problem [forced conversion]. Hence it's moot. > >> > >> --- > >> Your _assumption_ that you'll never have the problem because you'll > >> have your head buried in the sand to avert it doesn't mean that the > >> problem won't visit you. On the contrary, your refusal to recognize > >> it as a possibility makes you much more vulnerable than you'd > >> otherwise be. It might surprise you to hear this, but complacency > >> is _not_ a virtue. > > > >There is no possibilty of me ever being asked to convert under threat of force simply > >because there will never be enough Muslims here to be in a position to force me to do > >anything ( even assuming they wanted to ) . > > --- > All it takes is one... One what exactly ? > >In any case they'd have to overthrow EU and UK law first. > > --- > No big deal. You've never heard of martial law? Martial Law can only be imposed by a conquering army or whatever. You think this is likely ? How may brain cells do you have ? > >The very concept is insanely stupid. > > --- > Not at all. The implementation may be extremely difficult, but the > concept is already causing terrorist acts to occur there. It's so utterly insane that I'm inclined to find a way to campaign against such crass Republican stupidity. Graham
From: T Wake on 5 Oct 2006 17:36 "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:kurtullman-AA4E60.15244905102006(a)customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx... > In article <KsmdncSVMpRtxLjYRVnyig(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >> > There are two different things going on here. One is what you can >> > do as private citizen, which in AZ is that all are fair game. But we >> > were talking about what goverment (be it under the mantel of cop-dom or >> > spook-dom) can do. Whole 'nother kettle of fish.. >> >> Doesn't make it "right." > > Makes it legal. To paraphrase Shark on CBS.. "Right is God's > problem." Well, maybe. However, injust laws are still injust.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 5 Oct 2006 17:38
lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > Wow, I've hiked there, although only a little. No idea what was in them > woods! Not too surprised, though--the ONF reminds me a little of the Pine > Barrens in NJ, where I've also hiked. Ever heard about them? > Anthropologically fascinating area. The weather is amenable. Anyway, the > ONF has to be better than a steam grate in NYC.... > > Eric Lucas Apparently, they end up living in there where they can use their survival skills to hide from the world they are afraid of. Its warm enough that they don't need many nights with a fire to ward off the cold. I've never been to the Northeast. The Midwest, west coast, Alaska and the southeast, but not the New England area. The Florida "Green belt runs right behind my house. It has hiking and horse trails, and you hear someone out there from time to time. I keep threatening to install a couple PA speakers out there, about a quarter mile apart so I can play the theme from "Deliverance" when I hear someone. ;-) BTW, do you know how to cut firewood when the trees are frozen? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |