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From: Eeyore on 1 Nov 2006 22:32 unsettled wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>In article <4546F871.E7AD0EB5(a)hotmail.com>, > >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>>unsettled wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe > >>>>>and other places in the world to ours. > >>>> > >>>>What !!!! > >>>> > >>>>Are you being funny ? > >>> > >>> > >>>No, he's not. There are a lot of Europeans who come to the US > >>>to shop. > >> > >>There have been many flights bringing Europeans to shop at > >>the Mall of America in Minnesota. > > > > > > Cite ? > > Stuff it, fool. I've been there and talked with some of > the people. I've also shopped at Gurnee Mills which is > a one story affair with a mile long zig-zag mall under > roof. I first ran into them there, later at Mall of > America. I googled and found some 'shopping trips' involving a 3 day stay but none with same day return. > Mall of America is so large, for your information, that > there's an amusement park in the center, including a > roller coaster. It set itself up to be an international > destination. You don't suppose that a setup like that > could be supported solely by sales to the Twin Cities > and Minnesota folks within an easy drive, do you? > > >>Straight in, shop all day, > >>get back on the plane the same day and go back. > > > Sounds awful ! > > They like it all right. Several said they come twice > a year. They manage to get some sleep on the plane. The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping ! Graham
From: Eeyore on 1 Nov 2006 23:03 unsettled wrote: > Here's one example. UK doesn't recognize ADD or ADHD in > kids a treatable condition. I should have been more emphatic and said *LIAR* ! " Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder Treatment Treatment of ADHD with medicines works best when combined with additional therapies and advice and support for parents and teachers. Medication produces a short-lived improvement after each dose but is not a permanent cure. It creates a short period when the person can learn and practise new skills." http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleId=40§ionId=22866 Incidentally NHS Direct also allows you to contact staff trained in medical advice out of normal GP ( MD ) pratice hours. If they reckon your symptoms are a cause for concern you're likely to get a call back from your GP. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Nov 2006 06:56 In article <45474872.18139E02(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >> >> >Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and Japan. >> >They cover everybody and spend less. >> >> And deliver less service over a longer period of time. This >> is not the way medicine works to be effective. Mess prevention >> is a key element in treating disease. The only timely treatment >> these systems are good at is treating people who are well. > >Really ? I got an appointment @ 08:20 with a GP ( your MD ) for 10:50 and I >would have gone direct to the Path Lab for a blood test ( ~ 300 yds away ) had >it not been a Tuesday when it opens @ 12:30. I went direct to a Pharmacist and >had taken my first dose of medication by 12:00 and it's feeling better already. > >Not good enough ? That sounds like an infection and is usually a short-term treatment. I'm thinking about stuff that is longer. For instance, if you need an elective surgery done to fix something that is a little bit broke and have to wait for that surgury, by the time you get it treated the brokeness is much more serious and needs more fixing. And this just the one thing that is broken. The side effects of the body coping with the small breakage can be even more problematic to fix. Back and joint problems fall into this category. > > >> That's not what medical insurance is supposed to do. Medical >> insurance used to supply coverage for extraordinary circumstances. >> Now it does the opposite. > >Maybe in your country. Yes. That's what our politicians want us to endure. I've listened to Canadian wives whose husbands had to wait for treatment. They were very critical of the medical systems. But they will never say that out loud in front of their men because that would deflate the confidence of these males in their health care. That loss can be fatal for men. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Nov 2006 06:57 In article <1162304707.589590.317600(a)e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >[....] >> >Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and Japan. >> >They cover everybody and spend less. >> >> And deliver less service over a longer period of time. This >> is not the way medicine works to be effective. > >SInce on the average Canadians live longer than Americans (79 vs 77), >we can assume that health care is getting delivered quite well up >there. > >> Mess prevention >> is a key element in treating disease. >Remember you said this I'll call it "A" > > >> The only timely treatment >> these systems are good at is treating people who are well. > >They seem to be doing better than the US with a lot less money for >health care. Could it be the drug costs that make this difference? > > >> That's not what medical insurance is supposed to do. Medical >> insurance used to supply coverage for extraordinary circumstances. >> Now it does the opposite. > >Insurance is a business. Remember your statement "A" above. You were >right and the insurance companies agree. It is far better to pay for >some early visits to the doctors and some drugs than to wait for the >problem to get worse. The insurance companies act the way they do >because it is in their best interest to do so. If government provides >the insurance, they sould model it after what is proven to work so they >too should pay for the doctor visits. This is why it makes sense to >cover normal doctor visits of the poor. >
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Nov 2006 07:02
In article <eia75p$fmo$9(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <eia0fn$8ss_004(a)s880.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <ei56p7$3mf$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>In article <ehvga6$8qk_008(a)s964.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>In article <45433F9F.F6808F39(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> [Clinton] >>>>>> >(C) >>>>>> >Pressed the Saudi government to reduce support for the Wahhabis. This >>>>>> >I remember because it was a near perfect failure. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't call asking a government to reduce support for its brand >>>>>> of religion an effective action. >>>>> >>>>>It's not *its brand of religion* at all ! >>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabbi >>>>> >>>>>> That's spitting into a gale >>>>>> force wind with expectations that you'll hit the sidewalk >>>>>> a hundred miles away. >>>>> >>>>>How would you deal with it then ? >>>> >>>>I'd establish a nation with a capitalistic, representative democracy >>>>with a secular education system mandatory for all residents >>>>smack dab in the middle of that mess. >>>> >>>>/BAH >>> >>>And then what, leave and hope they like it? >> >>The people already like it. All they need is to be left >>alone, which Iran and Syria won't do, and get on with >>doing business. >> >>/BAH > >A majority want the US out now. Heck, a majority think it's OK to attack US >troops. Isn't a lot of that a tactic used to influence US elections from outsiders? >The Sunnis don't want a gov't with the Shia in it, the Shiites don't >want a gov't with the Sunnis in it, and the Kurds don't want anything to do >with either of them. Exactly. This is the mindset that has to change. It's called tolerance and learning how to settle differences in a court of law or voting booth rather than beheadings and suicide bombings. Western mindsets try these things before having to resort to killing. /BAH |