From: jmfbahciv on 2 Nov 2006 07:25 In article <9A32h.25970$7I1.11001(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eia7p3$8qk_009(a)s880.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <Rvp1h.23508$e66.15121(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ei4t4d$8qk_006(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <4544E33A.555EF3DA(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> You people are not thinking! Scenario: oil imports stop. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>So who's going to be buying the oil instead of the USA ? Where did >>>>>> >>>the >>>> oil >>>>>> go ? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> If production hasn't been stopped, China, India, and parts of >>>>>> >> Europe >>>>>> >> in exchange for capitulation. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> /BAH >>>>>> > >>>>>> >They're suddenly going to increase their oil consumption by over a >>>>>> >factor >>>> of >>>>>> >10??? >>>>>> >>>>>> They already have. It's going to be more. >>>>> >>>>>Not ten times more though is it ? And not 'overnight' either. >>>> >>>> In economic terms, it will be overnight. >>> >>>Nice smokescreen. We were talking about an oil embargo, >> >> You may have been talking about an embargo. I wasn't. > >Don't try to weasel out of it. You brought this up as a national security >issue. The only sense in which that is the case is if OPEC decides to >undertake an embargo. Nice try. Have you considered the possibility that extremists gain control, or destroy, the oil pumping infrastructure? OPEC has nothing to do with it. > >In any case, your original demand that our politicians talk about building >nuclear power plants will not help, until people have electric cars. And >that ain't gonna happen until oil become uncompetitive. I am not talking about oil becoming uncompetitive. I am talking about oil suddenly becoming unavailable. That should be a scenario considered by all heads of state, not just the US. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 2 Nov 2006 07:30 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: > > >They seem to be doing better than the US with a lot less money for > >health care. > > Could it be the drug costs that make this difference? Why do so may US medical practicioners prescibe expensive drugs when cheaper generics are just as good for mnay things ? It artificially inflates costs. That's not allowed in the NHS. Graham
From: Eeyore on 2 Nov 2006 07:31 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > >Actually, yes, GDP includes things that are exported. > > One doesn't export intellectual property. It's not a thing. Of course IP gets exported ( and imported ). Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 2 Nov 2006 07:27 In article <1162393373.073039.297600(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> In article <4qnbicFo0aioU1(a)individual.net>, >[....] >> >China is massively investing in coal liquefaction plants. >> >> When I was there in the 80s, their economy was based >> on all coal. ARe they working on development autos that >> can run on coal tar? > >No, they are working on making liquid fuel for cars out of coal. They >aren't changing the cars. They are changing the coal. > OK. I found a book on the world's coal reserves at the dump. I'll try to find it in my piles of books and take a look. How much energy does it take to turn coal into a liquid combustible fuel that can be used by today's engine designs? /BAH
From: Eeyore on 2 Nov 2006 07:33
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> Does GDP measure services, especially the intellectual kind? > >> Does GDP include all production that is used by the rest > >> of the world? > > > >If you consider all goods, services etc to be fungible ( which they seem to > >be ) then GDP must indeed include these things. > > I don't see how you can include a measurement of a piece of > knowledge that is used in another country which is profitable > for that country. Whose GDP includes that part of production? IP is no different to finanancial 'services'. No *thing* may cross borders but money will in return. Graham |