From: KDT on
On Aug 12, 12:52 am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
> > And that's where most of the money is and many of the popular apps.
>
> Agreed, but it's pretty disingenuous to insult Andriod's crApps when the
> bulk of the iOS app store peddles the same caliber of app.

I listed the "top apps" on Android market in the games category.


> >  I
> > thought creating "playlists" on the phone would be a simple matter of
> > creating sub folders in the Music folder like on most non-iPods.  That
> > doesn't work.
>
> No, but if the files are properly tagged you can play them by artist or
> album, so the old style "m3u" type folder-based playlists should be
> unnecessary.

I don't want to listen to the same artist. I want a playlist for when
I'm working out. I want a different playlist on my way home. I want
mellow background music, etc.

From: John Navas on
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:20:48 -0700 (PDT), in
<83af59a2-79f4-497f-bb87-c67174270499(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, KDT
<scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 12, 10:52�am, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> >What about the apps you *buy*. �
>>
>> That answer applies.
>
>So yet again I have to search through the Market place to redownload
>apps. This is suppose to be easier than just plugging up the iPhone.

It's supposed to be about the same, which it is.

>> >BTW, you sure are using a lot of
>> >programs to do what you could do with a single click of a button with
>> >the iPhone.
>>
>> Similar capability on the iPhone takes as many apps.
>
>So I need one app to manage music, one app to manage sms messages, one
>app to backup (most) of the settings, one app to (barely) manage
>podcasts, one app to buy music, one app to get my contacts that aren't
>on Google already on Google, one app...
>
>or
>
>Just launch iTunes.....

iTunes now runs on the iPhone? When did that happen?

>> >> >What about your text messages?
>>
>> >> Yes, Google Voice. �You should try it.
>>
>> >So now you have to use *five* programs to do what you can do with
>> >*one* and just clicking a button?
>>
>> You must not understand how seamlessly Google Voice works.
>> You should try it.
>
>You still brought in *another* app.....

If you're trying to make a point there I'm missing it.

>> >> >Not only that, if you transfer
>> >> >contacts from an old phone (like I did) they are not stored as Google
>> >> >contacts. �Only new contacts are stored as Google contacts.
>>
>> >> *All* my contacts, old and new, are stored as Google Contacts in the
>> >> cloud, because I *merge* contacts from other sources. �You should try
>> >> it.
>>
>> >So exactly how do you get contacts off of your phone that were
>> >transferred from another phone into your Google contact list -- yes I
>> >know you can do it --- with yet another program.
>>
>> SyncML
>
>So that's another program I have to find......

Not a program: <http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/>

>> >iTunes is sounding
>> >better and better the more you post.
>>
>> Suit yourself. �"Different strokes for different folks."
>>
>> >> >What
>> >> >about the placement of your icons, bookmarks, passwords?
>>
>> >> MyBackup preserves the Home screen and bookmarks.
>> >> My passwords are managed with KeePass, and also saved in the cloud.
>
>Even if you upgrade to another phone? Say if you go from an HTC to a
>Motorola.

No problem. T-Mobile will even do it for you.

>> >> Anything else?
>>
>> >Wow just the duplicate the functionality of iTunes, you need *six*
>> >different programs?
>>
>> How's the iTunes password generator working for you?
>> Does it use Twofish or AES encryption?
>
>No, but I don't have to manage 7 (you added one) programs...

Now I understand -- you just write off the many things that iTunes can't
do. That does indeed make life simpler, and if that's what you want,
then that's what you should do.

--
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?
From: John Navas on
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:13:52 -0700 (PDT), in
<a2b4f634-990d-473e-aa2c-dea415c169cb(a)i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, KDT
<scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 13, 12:08�am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

>> Assuming that's true, what, then, is the correct "Apple approach" to
>> synching a fixed set of songs/albums onto an iPhone? �Not an ever
>> changing rotating genius playlist of 4-star songs made between 1976 and
>> 2004 written by people whose first names start with a vowel- just a
>> simple group of a dozen or so specifically chosen albums. �
>
>Is the correct approach to have to download *6* different apps (as
>quoted by John) to duplicate most of the functionality of iTunes?

I actually said nothing of the sort. My apps have far more capability.
You're comparing (small) apples to (large) oranges.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:26:02 -0700 (PDT), in
<f187e7c7-1c77-4c6a-9031-8548331bb66b(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, KDT
<scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 12, 12:52�am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

>> No, but if the files are properly tagged you can play them by artist or
>> album, so the old style "m3u" type folder-based playlists should be
>> unnecessary.
>
>I don't want to listen to the same artist. I want a playlist for when
>I'm working out. I want a different playlist on my way home. I want
>mellow background music, etc.

Simple and easy on my Android, which also has other ways to play
I prefer, like play by artist, album, genre, etc. All without having to
mess with iTunes bloatware, which has a nasty habit of losing playlists
when you try to do nontrivial things to your library.

--
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?
From: nospam on
In article <bbi966dfolm78ogjof9ehfegklrvs9vtjc(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >So I need one app to manage music, one app to manage sms messages, one
> >app to backup (most) of the settings, one app to (barely) manage
> >podcasts, one app to buy music, one app to get my contacts that aren't
> >on Google already on Google, one app...
> >
> >or
> >
> >Just launch iTunes.....
>
> iTunes now runs on the iPhone? When did that happen?

there has been an itunes app running on the iphone and ipod touch for a
very, very long time.

maybe if you actually used one (and not lied about owning three), you'd
know these things.

> >> >> MyBackup preserves the Home screen and bookmarks.
> >> >> My passwords are managed with KeePass, and also saved in the cloud.
> >
> >Even if you upgrade to another phone? Say if you go from an HTC to a
> >Motorola.
>
> No problem. T-Mobile will even do it for you.

even more work.

on an iphone, just drop it in the dock and it backs everything up
automatically, or you can set it to require a single button push, and
that works to the same device or new device.

> >> >Wow just the duplicate the functionality of iTunes, you need *six*
> >> >different programs?
> >>
> >> How's the iTunes password generator working for you?
> >> Does it use Twofish or AES encryption?
> >
> >No, but I don't have to manage 7 (you added one) programs...
>
> Now I understand -- you just write off the many things that iTunes can't
> do. That does indeed make life simpler, and if that's what you want,
> then that's what you should do.

more like you write off everything that itunes *does* do, forcing you
to add many different apps and multiple steps to make up for the
missing functionality, and then calling it an advantage.