From: Jerry Peters on
In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:09:57 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote in <6KmdneZtLPWrHenWnZ2dnUVZ_qNi4p2d(a)earthlink.com>:
>
>>In article <4au8n51ecv1aa21tgg246m49n2t8itjlil(a)4ax.com>,
>> John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:18:18 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com>
>>> wrote in <fbmdnY3mwsSG6enWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>:
>
>>> > There is absolutely no correlation between money spent on education
>>> >and outcomes. ...
>>>
>>> Patently not true.
>>
>> Patently true. Look at the stats.
>
> Been there; done that. If you reduce funding to zero, then outcomes
> would most definitely change. In short, patently not true.
>
Reductio ad absurdum.
Certainly no one is advocating reducing funding to 0. The point is
that *increasing* funding does not necessarily increase educational
outcomes.

Jerry
From: Jerry Peters on
In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:26:19 -0600, Char Jackson <none(a)none.invalid>
> wrote in <s87bn5tftiose7j8if8dl0dvbjp6d9m9br(a)4ax.com>:
>
>>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:14:15 -0800, John Navas
>><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>>Unfortunately that would come at the expense of more productive economic
>>>activity -- TANSTAAFL. Much the same logic is behind state-sponsored
>>>gambling, which is mostly a tax on the poor, and thus beloved of more
>>>well-to-do conservatives.
>>
>>Total hogwash, but I know better than to engage in a discussion with
>>you, so go ahead by yourself.
>
> In other words, you have nothing persuasive to say in rebuttal.
>
No John, you don't listen to the rebuttals.

Jerry
From: John Navas on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:50:04 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters
<jerry(a)example.invalid> wrote in
<hl4iec$eep$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>:

>In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:09:57 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com>
>> wrote in <6KmdneZtLPWrHenWnZ2dnUVZ_qNi4p2d(a)earthlink.com>:
>>
>>>In article <4au8n51ecv1aa21tgg246m49n2t8itjlil(a)4ax.com>,
>>> John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:18:18 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote in <fbmdnY3mwsSG6enWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>:
>>
>>>> > There is absolutely no correlation between money spent on education
>>>> >and outcomes. ...
>>>>
>>>> Patently not true.
>>>
>>> Patently true. Look at the stats.
>>
>> Been there; done that. If you reduce funding to zero, then outcomes
>> would most definitely change. In short, patently not true.
>>
>Reductio ad absurdum.
>Certainly no one is advocating reducing funding to 0.

Quite a few people actually are. They call it privatizing.

>The point is
>that *increasing* funding does not necessarily increase educational
>outcomes.

Of course not, but that statement is quite different from "absolutely no
correlation between money spent on education and outcomes".

"Stay on target, Luke, stay on target!" ;)

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From: John Navas on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:52:59 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters
<jerry(a)example.invalid> wrote in
<hl4ijr$eep$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>:

>In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:26:19 -0600, Char Jackson <none(a)none.invalid>
>> wrote in <s87bn5tftiose7j8if8dl0dvbjp6d9m9br(a)4ax.com>:
>>
>>>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:14:15 -0800, John Navas
>>><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Unfortunately that would come at the expense of more productive economic
>>>>activity -- TANSTAAFL. Much the same logic is behind state-sponsored
>>>>gambling, which is mostly a tax on the poor, and thus beloved of more
>>>>well-to-do conservatives.
>>>
>>>Total hogwash, but I know better than to engage in a discussion with
>>>you, so go ahead by yourself.
>>
>> In other words, you have nothing persuasive to say in rebuttal.
>>
>No John, you don't listen to the rebuttals.

No Jerry, I'm just not impressed by unsupported claims.

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From: Char Jackson on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:13:20 -0800, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:52:59 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters
><jerry(a)example.invalid> wrote in
><hl4ijr$eep$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>:
>
>>In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:26:19 -0600, Char Jackson <none(a)none.invalid>
>>> wrote in <s87bn5tftiose7j8if8dl0dvbjp6d9m9br(a)4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:14:15 -0800, John Navas
>>>><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately that would come at the expense of more productive economic
>>>>>activity -- TANSTAAFL. Much the same logic is behind state-sponsored
>>>>>gambling, which is mostly a tax on the poor, and thus beloved of more
>>>>>well-to-do conservatives.
>>>>
>>>>Total hogwash, but I know better than to engage in a discussion with
>>>>you, so go ahead by yourself.
>>>
>>> In other words, you have nothing persuasive to say in rebuttal.
>>>
>>No John, you don't listen to the rebuttals.
>
>No Jerry, I'm just not impressed by unsupported claims.

Waitaminute, the king of unsupported claims isn't impressed by
unsupported claims? I'm shocked, but I guess you make an exception
when it comes to yourself. (See above)