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From: John Navas on 11 Feb 2010 16:39 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:37:15 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote in <jlp8n55lqn52q0bram10b4b41jk157aa8p(a)4ax.com>: >On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:46:11 -0800, John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:17:14 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> >>wrote in <4rf8n5lnik48hj3arkrm1rds4f3mvj46np(a)4ax.com>: >> >>>Cool, back to the traffic camera analogy. Traffic cameras are a PITA >>>to maintain. Too much vandalism and maintenance. They also only >>>"protect" one location. A much better method would be to install a >>>GPS data logger in your vehicle, which sends a record of your >>>movements and speeds to Sacramento for analysis. Plenty of >>>justifications such as improving vehicle fuel efficient, roadway >>>planning, driving pattern studies, etc. Of course, the data will not >>>fall into the wrong hands as insured by our beloved govenment. >>>However, should the data show that you have exceeded the >>>electronically posted speed limit at any time, you'll receive a >>>"notice of apparent liability" for the infraction along with your >>>annual registration. This is close enough to having the FBI log your >>>surfing habits to activate my paranoia alarm. >> >>May well be coming soon to an auto dealer near you. > >Most rental cars already include some form of data logger. Most? In all of the many rentals I've been doing there's no GPS unless I pay extra for a navigation system, which I don't do because Google Maps on my cell is quite sufficient. >In its >simplest form, it's a GPS mapping display, with an SD card that >records all the NMEA-183 data. If you leave the state, drive too >fast, exceed acceleration limits, or induce a high G force (like >driving off the curb), the data logger will record it. When you >return the vehicle, you get a bill. I don't rent vehicles very often, >but I got a short lecture that boiled down to "we're watching what >you're doing with our car" from the rental person. I would have asked >for details, but there was a line. What company? I use Avis (and a few others), and haven't seen anything like that. -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: John Navas on 11 Feb 2010 16:41 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:18:18 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote in <fbmdnY3mwsSG6enWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>: >In article <hl1q75$2q1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com (David Kaye) wrote: >> Do you cut school budgets, clearly one of the biggest expenditures any state >> makes? Sure. Cut schools and other countries get ahead of us. It's no >> accident that other countries are taking away our tech lead. It's no >> accident >> that people can get better medical care for cheaper outside the U.S. In most >> *civilized* countries of the world a higher education costs the student >> nothing. Here, a decent education is anything from $50k to $200k, causing a >> debt most students carry for decades. > There is absolutely no correlation between money spent on education >and outcomes. ... Patently not true. -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: Kurt Ullman on 11 Feb 2010 17:09 In article <4au8n51ecv1aa21tgg246m49n2t8itjlil(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:18:18 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> > wrote in <fbmdnY3mwsSG6enWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>: > > >In article <hl1q75$2q1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > > sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com (David Kaye) wrote: > > >> Do you cut school budgets, clearly one of the biggest expenditures any > >> state > >> makes? Sure. Cut schools and other countries get ahead of us. It's no > >> accident that other countries are taking away our tech lead. It's no > >> accident > >> that people can get better medical care for cheaper outside the U.S. In > >> most > >> *civilized* countries of the world a higher education costs the student > >> nothing. Here, a decent education is anything from $50k to $200k, causing > >> a > >> debt most students carry for decades. > > > There is absolutely no correlation between money spent on education > >and outcomes. ... > > Patently not true. Patently true. Look at the stats. -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton
From: Malcolm Hoar on 11 Feb 2010 19:42 In article <4rf8n5lnik48hj3arkrm1rds4f3mvj46np(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >Cool, back to the traffic camera analogy. Traffic cameras are a PITA >to maintain. Too much vandalism and maintenance. They also only >"protect" one location. A much better method would be to install a >GPS data logger in your vehicle, which sends a record of your >movements and speeds to Sacramento for analysis. Rather than tracking your vehicle, it seems there's currently more interest in tracking your cell phone, at least at the Federal level: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". | | malch(a)malch.com Gary Player. | | http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Char Jackson on 11 Feb 2010 21:02
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:44:24 GMT, sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com (David Kaye) wrote: >Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> This is already being piloted. Some states are trying to decide if >>GPS reporting back to the State can be used for road taxes, since we are >>driving more miles with more efficiency and the old way isn't making >>enough money. > >Okay, you run a state. Your state is $20 billion in debt. Where do you cut? Radical, perhaps, but I'd put marijuana in the same category as alcohol. Make it available everywhere and tax it. Turn the $20b debt into a surplus. |