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From: DanS on 11 Feb 2010 13:44 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote in news:4rf8n5lnik48hj3arkrm1rds4f3mvj46np(a)4ax.com: > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:29 GMT, sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com (David Kaye) > wrote: > >>jeffl(a)cruzio.com wrote: >> >>>Don't think it will happen? Well, the automated traffic camera >>>system has about a 5-10% error rate, but continues to generate >>>revenue for its municipal customers. >> > Vehicles stopped in the > intersection (due to pedestrian traffic) were sometimes cited when > someone in the next lane attempted to run the light. Timing of the > yellow light duration was intentionally set very short, to maximize > profits. It was a small mess in about 2005. http://www.ridelust.com/red-light-cameras-just-dont-work/ ....... "In fact, six U.S. cities have been found guilty of shortening the yellow light cycles below what is allowed by law on intersections equipped with cameras meant to catch red-light runners. Those local governments have completely ignored the safety benefit of increasing the yellow light time and decided to install red-light cameras, shorten the yellow light duration, and collect the profits instead." Yes Jeff...by LAW, the yellow light MUST be a minimum duration. Actually, there's a yellow light here that is illegal. Down one of the 'party district' streets, there's 6 or 7 signals on it. The last signal on the street, the yellow's about 500 ms long. Here's an interesting read.. http://www.sfmta.com/cms/vsafe/documents/Collision_report_2008.pdf San Francisco Collision report. If you were to search on 'camera' within the PDF, you'd find that the is only 1 graph that shows a reduction in accidents since red-light camera installation.
From: John Navas on 11 Feb 2010 13:46 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:17:14 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote in <4rf8n5lnik48hj3arkrm1rds4f3mvj46np(a)4ax.com>: >Cool, back to the traffic camera analogy. Traffic cameras are a PITA >to maintain. Too much vandalism and maintenance. They also only >"protect" one location. A much better method would be to install a >GPS data logger in your vehicle, which sends a record of your >movements and speeds to Sacramento for analysis. Plenty of >justifications such as improving vehicle fuel efficient, roadway >planning, driving pattern studies, etc. Of course, the data will not >fall into the wrong hands as insured by our beloved govenment. >However, should the data show that you have exceeded the >electronically posted speed limit at any time, you'll receive a >"notice of apparent liability" for the infraction along with your >annual registration. This is close enough to having the FBI log your >surfing habits to activate my paranoia alarm. May well be coming soon to an auto dealer near you. -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: Kurt Ullman on 11 Feb 2010 14:04 In article <4rf8n5lnik48hj3arkrm1rds4f3mvj46np(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > Cool, back to the traffic camera analogy. Traffic cameras are a PITA > to maintain. Too much vandalism and maintenance. They also only > "protect" one location. A much better method would be to install a > GPS data logger in your vehicle, which sends a record of your > movements and speeds to Sacramento for analysis. Plenty of > justifications such as improving vehicle fuel efficient, roadway > planning, driving pattern studies, etc. This is already being piloted. Some states are trying to decide if GPS reporting back to the State can be used for road taxes, since we are driving more miles with more efficiency and the old way isn't making enough money. There is also the equivalent of black box on some kinds of cars that records speed, etc. > Incidentally, under the various forfeiture laws, it's conceivable that > your computer might be confiscated and sold if you're accused of one > of the "other serious crimes" by looking at the wrong URL. It's a > stretch, but we can trust the judges, who derive their income from > government revenue, to protect us. Not such a stretch. Just look at how everybody is applying the RICO laws that were originally just supposed to ensnare the random Goomba -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton
From: David Kaye on 11 Feb 2010 15:36 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >If we all stopped paying our taxes, how long would it take before it >had an effect on the various governments? My guess is they could >survive just fine for perhaps 3-4 years selling assets and bonds. If we stopped paying our taxes the various governments wouldn't be able to sell their bonds. Investors may be emotional but they're not entirely stupid. I don't think there is any waiting line to buy Vallejo's bonds. >Now, >try that with Google, and it would collapse in perhaps 1 year or less. How many of us spend money on Google? I don't. The only transactions I have with Google is giving away my privacy via sending them info about which web sites I visit, valuable information they're selling to others. As long as their advertising remains effective, companies are going to spend money on them, even if it's morally reprehensible. >So, you approve of the FBI monitoring and logging everyone's web >surfing habits for the alleged benefit of making it easier to enforce >child pornography "and other serious crimes" in an unspecified manner? No, but given that Yahoo and Google have turned over records about dissidents to Chinese government authorities (and a Yahoo action was *directly* responsible for the imprisonment of dissidents) I don't see a difference really. Again, I don't share the mistrust of government that others do. Yes, I know there have been and continue to be abuses, but having a government and not having one is a world of difference. People who are anti-government tend to forget what a hell hole Russia was when the Soviet Union collapsed. People literally had to pay thugs for protectoin with their family heirlooms since the money was no good and there was a free-for-all of looting. And then there's Haiti...
From: Jeff Liebermann on 11 Feb 2010 15:37
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:46:11 -0800, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:17:14 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> >wrote in <4rf8n5lnik48hj3arkrm1rds4f3mvj46np(a)4ax.com>: > >>Cool, back to the traffic camera analogy. Traffic cameras are a PITA >>to maintain. Too much vandalism and maintenance. They also only >>"protect" one location. A much better method would be to install a >>GPS data logger in your vehicle, which sends a record of your >>movements and speeds to Sacramento for analysis. Plenty of >>justifications such as improving vehicle fuel efficient, roadway >>planning, driving pattern studies, etc. Of course, the data will not >>fall into the wrong hands as insured by our beloved govenment. >>However, should the data show that you have exceeded the >>electronically posted speed limit at any time, you'll receive a >>"notice of apparent liability" for the infraction along with your >>annual registration. This is close enough to having the FBI log your >>surfing habits to activate my paranoia alarm. > >May well be coming soon to an auto dealer near you. Most rental cars already include some form of data logger. In its simplest form, it's a GPS mapping display, with an SD card that records all the NMEA-183 data. If you leave the state, drive too fast, exceed acceleration limits, or induce a high G force (like driving off the curb), the data logger will record it. When you return the vehicle, you get a bill. I don't rent vehicles very often, but I got a short lecture that boiled down to "we're watching what you're doing with our car" from the rental person. I would have asked for details, but there was a line. Similarly, there is a manufacturer supplied data logger (i.e. crash recorder) that records that last few seconds of ODB data before a crash. The idea is for the manufacturer to use the data to determine what happened and how to improve vehicle survivability. The courts and insurance companies supposidly cannot use this data to penalize the customer, but there have been many exceptions: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_data_recorder> All that would be necessary is to add GPS for location, and add some intelligence to the sampling, and we have a built in tracker. Uncle Sam doesn't want you. He wants your money. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |