From: John Navas on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:15:26 -0600, DanS
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>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>news:7v3bn5t7fthb9ckdthtog0lf2080lb979f(a)4ax.com:

>> And in fact there have been many such studies; e.g., "Examining the
>> Relationship between Educational Outcomes and Gaps in Funding: An
>> Extension of the New York Adequacy Study" [Peabody Journal of Education,
>> v81 n2 p1-32 2006]:
>>
>> We find that for a majority of districts significantly higher levels
>> of spending are required if the state wishes to provide a sound basic
>> education to all public school students. FURTHERMORE, THE RESULTS
>> SHOW A CLEAR NEGATIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DISTRICT-LEVEL
>> SHORTFALL IN SPENDING AND EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES ACROSS VIRTUALLY ALL
>> STUDENT SUBPOPULATIONS. [emphasis added]

>Yep...and here's another one that counters your study....
>
>http://www.heritage.org/research/Education/bg2179.cfm
>[SNIP]

The Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank.
You'll have to do a lot better than that.

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From: John Navas on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:26:19 -0600, Char Jackson <none(a)none.invalid>
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>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:14:15 -0800, John Navas
><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

>>Unfortunately that would come at the expense of more productive economic
>>activity -- TANSTAAFL. Much the same logic is behind state-sponsored
>>gambling, which is mostly a tax on the poor, and thus beloved of more
>>well-to-do conservatives.
>
>Total hogwash, but I know better than to engage in a discussion with
>you, so go ahead by yourself.

In other words, you have nothing persuasive to say in rebuttal.

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From: Brad Allen on
" In theory, but in practice at least some of these cameras are going off
" at the wrong times, deliberately or accidentally. After noticing a
" particular camera in San Francisco go off more than once at odd times,
" I spent some time monitoring it, and it's definitely sometimes firing
" when the light is _not_ red, what percentage of the time I cannot say
" for sure.

Some are programmed that way for legitimate reasons, from what I've read.
That doesn't mean that the overall programming is correct.
From: John Navas on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:11:18 -0600, DanS
<t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in
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>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>news:cfbbn5lqvivpgsvsgrhju4fpj6mvfhvi8q(a)4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:15:26 -0600, DanS
>> <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in
>> <Xns9D1D911281D9Fthisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131>:
>>
>>>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>>>news:7v3bn5t7fthb9ckdthtog0lf2080lb979f(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>>> And in fact there have been many such studies; e.g., "Examining the
>>>> Relationship between Educational Outcomes and Gaps in Funding: An
>>>> Extension of the New York Adequacy Study" [Peabody Journal of
>>>> Education, v81 n2 p1-32 2006]:
>>>>
>>>> We find that for a majority of districts significantly higher
>>>> levels of spending are required if the state wishes to provide a
>>>> sound basic education to all public school students. FURTHERMORE,
>>>> THE RESULTS SHOW A CLEAR NEGATIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
>>>> DISTRICT-LEVEL SHORTFALL IN SPENDING AND EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES
>>>> ACROSS VIRTUALLY ALL STUDENT SUBPOPULATIONS. [emphasis added]
>>
>>>Yep...and here's another one that counters your study....
>>>
>>>http://www.heritage.org/research/Education/bg2179.cfm
>>>[SNIP]
>>
>> The Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank.
>> You'll have to do a lot better than that.
>
>So just because you don't like the source, you discard it ?

I discard it because it's biased.

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From: DanS on
John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
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> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:11:18 -0600, DanS
> <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in
> <Xns9D1D9A8B836B6thisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131>:
>
>>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>>news:cfbbn5lqvivpgsvsgrhju4fpj6mvfhvi8q(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:15:26 -0600, DanS
>>> <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in
>>> <Xns9D1D911281D9Fthisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131>:
>>>
>>>>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in
>>>>news:7v3bn5t7fthb9ckdthtog0lf2080lb979f(a)4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>> And in fact there have been many such studies; e.g., "Examining the
>>>>> Relationship between Educational Outcomes and Gaps in Funding: An
>>>>> Extension of the New York Adequacy Study" [Peabody Journal of
>>>>> Education, v81 n2 p1-32 2006]:
>>>>>
>>>>> We find that for a majority of districts significantly higher
>>>>> levels of spending are required if the state wishes to provide a
>>>>> sound basic education to all public school students.
FURTHERMORE,
>>>>> THE RESULTS SHOW A CLEAR NEGATIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
>>>>> DISTRICT-LEVEL SHORTFALL IN SPENDING AND EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES
>>>>> ACROSS VIRTUALLY ALL STUDENT SUBPOPULATIONS. [emphasis added]
>>>
>>>>Yep...and here's another one that counters your study....
>>>>
>>>>http://www.heritage.org/research/Education/bg2179.cfm
>>>>[SNIP]
>>>
>>> The Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank.
>>> You'll have to do a lot better than that.
>>
>>So just because you don't like the source, you discard it ?
>
> I discard it because it's biased.
>

BS. You only discarded it because it doesn't agree with you.

I suppose the other two sources I linked were biased too ?