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From: John Navas on 13 Feb 2010 12:10 On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:10:23 -0800, Steve Fenwick <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in <nospam-80A585.22102312022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>: >In article <ce6bn5taqnv3a3lsblp24l4vogjiqntusp(a)4ax.com>, > Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >> Incidentally, I think I may have violated the off-road part. The road >> to my house would have probably qualified as off-road or 4wd >> accessible. It might also have triggered an accelerometer limit. I >> didn't drive it off-road. Them were speed bumps. Also, GPS doesn't >> work very well in the hills and tall trees. Depends on the GPS. The newest technology (e.g., SiRFstar III <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SiRFstar_III>) is greatly improved. >You don't have to go very far off-road, or off-road at all, to be >off-GPS maps. Large swaths of the Eastern Shore of Maryland west of US50 >id not show up in the Hertz Never Lost when I was there a couple of >years ago. That only applies to that particular unit. I have street and topo maps covering the entire USA (in addition to complete marine charts of the West Coast, Hawaii, and North Pacific) for my own GPS, but can only load a portion of them at any one time due to the memory limits of the unit. -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
From: Jerry Peters on 13 Feb 2010 16:17 John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:50:04 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters > <jerry(a)example.invalid> wrote in > <hl4iec$eep$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>: > >>In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:09:57 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> >>> wrote in <6KmdneZtLPWrHenWnZ2dnUVZ_qNi4p2d(a)earthlink.com>: >>> >>>>In article <4au8n51ecv1aa21tgg246m49n2t8itjlil(a)4ax.com>, >>>> John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:18:18 -0500, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> >>>>> wrote in <fbmdnY3mwsSG6enWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>: >>> >>>>> > There is absolutely no correlation between money spent on education >>>>> >and outcomes. ... >>>>> >>>>> Patently not true. >>>> >>>> Patently true. Look at the stats. >>> >>> Been there; done that. If you reduce funding to zero, then outcomes >>> would most definitely change. In short, patently not true. >>> >>Reductio ad absurdum. >>Certainly no one is advocating reducing funding to 0. > > Quite a few people actually are. They call it privatizing. > >>The point is >>that *increasing* funding does not necessarily increase educational >>outcomes. > > Of course not, but that statement is quite different from "absolutely no > correlation between money spent on education and outcomes". > > "Stay on target, Luke, stay on target!" ;) > Ah, a nitpicker. Use some intelligence John, stop being a jackass. Jerry
From: Jerry Peters on 13 Feb 2010 16:19 In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:11:18 -0600, DanS > <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in > <Xns9D1D9A8B836B6thisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131>: > >>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in >>news:cfbbn5lqvivpgsvsgrhju4fpj6mvfhvi8q(a)4ax.com: >> >>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:15:26 -0600, DanS >>> <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in >>> <Xns9D1D911281D9Fthisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131>: >>> >>>>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in >>>>news:7v3bn5t7fthb9ckdthtog0lf2080lb979f(a)4ax.com: >>> >>>>> And in fact there have been many such studies; e.g., "Examining the >>>>> Relationship between Educational Outcomes and Gaps in Funding: An >>>>> Extension of the New York Adequacy Study" [Peabody Journal of >>>>> Education, v81 n2 p1-32 2006]: >>>>> >>>>> We find that for a majority of districts significantly higher >>>>> levels of spending are required if the state wishes to provide a >>>>> sound basic education to all public school students. FURTHERMORE, >>>>> THE RESULTS SHOW A CLEAR NEGATIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE >>>>> DISTRICT-LEVEL SHORTFALL IN SPENDING AND EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES >>>>> ACROSS VIRTUALLY ALL STUDENT SUBPOPULATIONS. [emphasis added] >>> >>>>Yep...and here's another one that counters your study.... >>>> >>>>http://www.heritage.org/research/Education/bg2179.cfm >>>>[SNIP] >>> >>> The Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank. >>> You'll have to do a lot better than that. >> >>So just because you don't like the source, you discard it ? > > I discard it because it's biased. > No, you can't refute it so you call it "biased". You're very transparent John. Jerry
From: Jerry Peters on 13 Feb 2010 16:21 John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:52:59 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters > <jerry(a)example.invalid> wrote in > <hl4ijr$eep$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>: > >>In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:26:19 -0600, Char Jackson <none(a)none.invalid> >>> wrote in <s87bn5tftiose7j8if8dl0dvbjp6d9m9br(a)4ax.com>: >>> >>>>On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:14:15 -0800, John Navas >>>><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>Unfortunately that would come at the expense of more productive economic >>>>>activity -- TANSTAAFL. Much the same logic is behind state-sponsored >>>>>gambling, which is mostly a tax on the poor, and thus beloved of more >>>>>well-to-do conservatives. >>>> >>>>Total hogwash, but I know better than to engage in a discussion with >>>>you, so go ahead by yourself. >>> >>> In other words, you have nothing persuasive to say in rebuttal. >>> >>No John, you don't listen to the rebuttals. > > No Jerry, I'm just not impressed by unsupported claims. > Like the ones you consistently making? Oh, I do keep forgetting, you're the *expert* on just about everything. Jerry
From: John Navas on 13 Feb 2010 21:20
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:19:04 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters <jerry(a)example.invalid> wrote in <hl7508$rg$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>: >In alt.internet.wireless John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:11:18 -0600, DanS >> <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in >> <Xns9D1D9A8B836B6thisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131>: >> >>>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in >>>news:cfbbn5lqvivpgsvsgrhju4fpj6mvfhvi8q(a)4ax.com: >>> >>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:15:26 -0600, DanS >>>> <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in >>>> <Xns9D1D911281D9Fthisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131>: >>>> >>>>>John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in >>>>>news:7v3bn5t7fthb9ckdthtog0lf2080lb979f(a)4ax.com: >>>> >>>>>> And in fact there have been many such studies; e.g., "Examining the >>>>>> Relationship between Educational Outcomes and Gaps in Funding: An >>>>>> Extension of the New York Adequacy Study" [Peabody Journal of >>>>>> Education, v81 n2 p1-32 2006]: >>>>>> >>>>>> We find that for a majority of districts significantly higher >>>>>> levels of spending are required if the state wishes to provide a >>>>>> sound basic education to all public school students. FURTHERMORE, >>>>>> THE RESULTS SHOW A CLEAR NEGATIVE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE >>>>>> DISTRICT-LEVEL SHORTFALL IN SPENDING AND EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES >>>>>> ACROSS VIRTUALLY ALL STUDENT SUBPOPULATIONS. [emphasis added] >>>> >>>>>Yep...and here's another one that counters your study.... >>>>> >>>>>http://www.heritage.org/research/Education/bg2179.cfm >>>>>[SNIP] >>>> >>>> The Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank. >>>> You'll have to do a lot better than that. >>> >>>So just because you don't like the source, you discard it ? >> >> I discard it because it's biased. > >No, you can't refute it so you call it "biased". You're very >transparent John. I've already refuted it with an authoritative unbiased study. You're very biased Dan. -- Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us> John FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes> |