From: Mack A. Damia on
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:36:32 +0100, Jon <jon(a)no-email.org> wrote:

>On 13/07/2010 1:06pm, Mark Conrad wrote:
>> In article<NI4C0TNQ40372.62(a)reece.net.au>, Simon Puddingham
>> <spudd(a)booger.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I trust you keep him caged most of the time, and
>>>> only release him in case of a national emergency ?
>>>>
>>>> Mark-
>>>
>>> I must apologize on behalf of the country for
>>> Rowland McDonnell's appalling behavior.
>>
>> Heh, I wondered what hit me when Rowland
>> lit into me, thanks for the explanation.
>>
>> I adopted a defensive posture in my responses
>> to Rowland, said a few things about my own
>> president and country that I regret now,
>> to kind of "counter" Rowland's tirade.
>>
>> This is not the time nor place for political
>> discussions, as it is supposed to be a computer
>> forum for Macs.
>>
>> That said, I would like to make a few off-topic
>> observations.
>>
>> All people have political preferences, some like no
>> central government at all, some go to the other extreme
>> and like a dictatorship with extremely tight control.
>>
>> Most prefer the middle, from the "business friendly"
>> government of the USA to the more tightly regulated
>> forms of socialist governments preferred by Europeans,
>> even to the much more tightly regulated communist
>> governments in places like China.
>>
>> So be it, people can decide their own preference, and if
>> they are determined, move to the country of their choice.
>>
>> (assuming their govenment lets them
>> migrate out of their own country)
>>
>>
>> I don't see herds of people leaving the USA to take up
>> residence in other countries, nor do I see herds of people
>> in the UK leaving there for the USA , so everyone must be
>> reasonably happy with their own governments policies.
>>
>>
>> Here in the USA we judge our politicians by what they do,
>> and what they have done, in the past, not so much
>> by what they say in their speeches.
>>
>> I can find little fault with Obama's speeches, he is all for
>> motherhood, apple pie, a chicken in every pot, a car in
>> every garage, health care for EVERYONE , and other
>> such noble things.
>>
>> Even his speeches in Arab countries I can find no fault
>> with, nor can anyone else who actually listens
>> to his speeches in those Muslim countries.
>>
>> What makes me and my fellow USA citizens extremely
>> nervous is his policy of moving the USA much closer to
>> a socialist form of govenment, which we rejected when
>> we originally migrated from England to settle this country,
>> to escape from heavy-handed central government control ,
>> then common in England.
>
>There was no socialism in 17th century England my friend, in fact quite
>the opposite.
>
>The London Virginia company was just a land grab, it was nothing to do
>with "Rights".
>
>It was the American (ironically) and French revolutions that gave birth
>to the concept of "Socialism" and that "All men are equal".
>
>
>>
>> He is also spending us into oblivion, the USA has limited
>> financial resources, so can be broken by such irresponsible
>> spending. If the USA does indeed go broke, the financial
>> repercussions of that will affect a lot of European countries,
>> who are not exactly rolling in money right now.
>>
>> Likewise, if the present financial distress in the UK becomes
>> much worse than it is right now, that will definitely adversely
>> affect us here in the USA , so we are watching _your_ financial
>> situation in the UK , with the hope that it will improve,
>> for both our sakes.
>>
>
>Ahh, you are so sweet!
>
>>
>> There, I have had my say, now back to talking about Macs.<g>
>>
>> Mark-
>
>After reading this bollocks, I am seriously thing of switching to Windoze!

Why don't you just suck on *my* bollocks instead?
From: J.J. Plodder on
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:59:07 +0200, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> In article <NI4C0TNQ40372.62(a)reece.net.au>, Simon Puddingham
> <spudd(a)booger.com> wrote:
>
> [Too much]

You have a pathetic football team, you little bog hopper. They are as much
use as Rowland McDonnell.



From: Mack A. Damia on
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:03:31 +0100,
real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:


>Almost everything that's wrong with the USA can be put down to a lack of
>socialism.

As I like to remind my fellow countrymen, there is nothing in the
Constitution that demands a capitalist economy; however there is a
great deal of socialism inherent in the Preamble.



From: Rowland McDonnell on
Mack A. Damia <mybaconbutty(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
>
> >Almost everything that's wrong with the USA can be put down to a lack of
> >socialism.
>
> As I like to remind my fellow countrymen, there is nothing in the
> Constitution that demands a capitalist economy; however there is a
> great deal of socialism inherent in the Preamble.

And as I point out, there's nothing in socialism which demands the end
of capitalism /until you've got round to abolishing the concept of
ownership/. By which I mean abolishing the concept of property entirely
- no ownership of land, or things, and especially not of people.

And that's a very long term project, that one - but part of the
socialist project.

The USSR was not in any sense a socialist nation; nor were any of its
satellite states.

Rowland.

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

[snip]
> > nor do I see herds of people
> > in the UK leaving there for the USA , so everyone must be
> > reasonably happy with their own governments policies.
>
> That could just as easily be a sign that it's hard to emigrate, because
> most nations make it hard to enter them as permanent residents.
[snip]

I meant `immigrate'

Rowland.

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