From: Mack A. Damia on 13 Jul 2010 10:41 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:36:32 +0100, Jon <jon(a)no-email.org> wrote: >On 13/07/2010 1:06pm, Mark Conrad wrote: >> In article<NI4C0TNQ40372.62(a)reece.net.au>, Simon Puddingham >> <spudd(a)booger.com> wrote: >> >>>> I trust you keep him caged most of the time, and >>>> only release him in case of a national emergency ? >>>> >>>> Mark- >>> >>> I must apologize on behalf of the country for >>> Rowland McDonnell's appalling behavior. >> >> Heh, I wondered what hit me when Rowland >> lit into me, thanks for the explanation. >> >> I adopted a defensive posture in my responses >> to Rowland, said a few things about my own >> president and country that I regret now, >> to kind of "counter" Rowland's tirade. >> >> This is not the time nor place for political >> discussions, as it is supposed to be a computer >> forum for Macs. >> >> That said, I would like to make a few off-topic >> observations. >> >> All people have political preferences, some like no >> central government at all, some go to the other extreme >> and like a dictatorship with extremely tight control. >> >> Most prefer the middle, from the "business friendly" >> government of the USA to the more tightly regulated >> forms of socialist governments preferred by Europeans, >> even to the much more tightly regulated communist >> governments in places like China. >> >> So be it, people can decide their own preference, and if >> they are determined, move to the country of their choice. >> >> (assuming their govenment lets them >> migrate out of their own country) >> >> >> I don't see herds of people leaving the USA to take up >> residence in other countries, nor do I see herds of people >> in the UK leaving there for the USA , so everyone must be >> reasonably happy with their own governments policies. >> >> >> Here in the USA we judge our politicians by what they do, >> and what they have done, in the past, not so much >> by what they say in their speeches. >> >> I can find little fault with Obama's speeches, he is all for >> motherhood, apple pie, a chicken in every pot, a car in >> every garage, health care for EVERYONE , and other >> such noble things. >> >> Even his speeches in Arab countries I can find no fault >> with, nor can anyone else who actually listens >> to his speeches in those Muslim countries. >> >> What makes me and my fellow USA citizens extremely >> nervous is his policy of moving the USA much closer to >> a socialist form of govenment, which we rejected when >> we originally migrated from England to settle this country, >> to escape from heavy-handed central government control , >> then common in England. > >There was no socialism in 17th century England my friend, in fact quite >the opposite. > >The London Virginia company was just a land grab, it was nothing to do >with "Rights". > >It was the American (ironically) and French revolutions that gave birth >to the concept of "Socialism" and that "All men are equal". > > >> >> He is also spending us into oblivion, the USA has limited >> financial resources, so can be broken by such irresponsible >> spending. If the USA does indeed go broke, the financial >> repercussions of that will affect a lot of European countries, >> who are not exactly rolling in money right now. >> >> Likewise, if the present financial distress in the UK becomes >> much worse than it is right now, that will definitely adversely >> affect us here in the USA , so we are watching _your_ financial >> situation in the UK , with the hope that it will improve, >> for both our sakes. >> > >Ahh, you are so sweet! > >> >> There, I have had my say, now back to talking about Macs.<g> >> >> Mark- > >After reading this bollocks, I am seriously thing of switching to Windoze! Why don't you just suck on *my* bollocks instead?
From: J.J. Plodder on 13 Jul 2010 11:42 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:59:07 +0200, J. J. Lodder wrote: > In article <NI4C0TNQ40372.62(a)reece.net.au>, Simon Puddingham > <spudd(a)booger.com> wrote: > > [Too much] You have a pathetic football team, you little bog hopper. They are as much use as Rowland McDonnell.
From: Mack A. Damia on 13 Jul 2010 12:10 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:03:31 +0100, real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: >Almost everything that's wrong with the USA can be put down to a lack of >socialism. As I like to remind my fellow countrymen, there is nothing in the Constitution that demands a capitalist economy; however there is a great deal of socialism inherent in the Preamble.
From: Rowland McDonnell on 13 Jul 2010 12:35 Mack A. Damia <mybaconbutty(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote: > > >Almost everything that's wrong with the USA can be put down to a lack of > >socialism. > > As I like to remind my fellow countrymen, there is nothing in the > Constitution that demands a capitalist economy; however there is a > great deal of socialism inherent in the Preamble. And as I point out, there's nothing in socialism which demands the end of capitalism /until you've got round to abolishing the concept of ownership/. By which I mean abolishing the concept of property entirely - no ownership of land, or things, and especially not of people. And that's a very long term project, that one - but part of the socialist project. The USSR was not in any sense a socialist nation; nor were any of its satellite states. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 14 Jul 2010 10:35
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: [snip] > > nor do I see herds of people > > in the UK leaving there for the USA , so everyone must be > > reasonably happy with their own governments policies. > > That could just as easily be a sign that it's hard to emigrate, because > most nations make it hard to enter them as permanent residents. [snip] I meant `immigrate' Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |