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From: Mark Conrad on 21 Jul 2010 22:59 In article <1jlzagf.19l2h3x17y5qqN%peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > > I have real concerns that the USA will cut its own > > throat just by sheer waste, we can not afford to > > do things like spending 2 trillion a year on health > > care for our citizens. > > Or a hundred billion a year on spooks, > most of whom are spying on U.S. citizens. Yep, that is how we caught that ring of Soviet spies who were in the news recently, all of them Soviet citizens posing as U.S. citizens. I wish it was two hundred billion a year. Mark-
From: Pd on 22 Jul 2010 05:48 Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote: > In article <1jlzagf.19l2h3x17y5qqN%peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>, Pd > <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > > > > I have real concerns that the USA will cut its own > > > throat just by sheer waste, we can not afford to > > > do things like spending 2 trillion a year on health > > > care for our citizens. > > > > Or a hundred billion a year on spooks, > > most of whom are spying on U.S. citizens. > > Yep, that is how we caught that ring of Soviet spies > who were in the news recently, all of them Soviet > citizens posing as U.S. citizens. Yeah, good work on catching Robert Hanssen - that only took your million or so superspies twenty years. Good ol' Bush never noticed > I wish it was two hundred billion a year. Perhaps then you'd be able to find those elusive WMD, and catch actual terrorists like the Christmas Day bomber rather than have to rely on your average citizen noticing some guy leaking smoke. You have enough spooks to have one tailing every Muslim in the USA. You guys are dinosaurs. You still think brute force is the only way to solve problems. You think you're big and tough because you can carry a gun. But your breed are dying off. John Wayne's dead, you know. -- Pd
From: Pd on 22 Jul 2010 05:50 Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote: > The pill radios its location as it goes through the digestive track, > revealing any abnormal motility rate. > > My doctor never heard of the thing, showed all sorts of resistance > when I tried to get him to contact the medical supply firm that sold it. Your doctor was an idiot. You challenged his authority. They hate that. > ... so I wound up firing my doctor. Good work. I hope you found one with more of an open mind. -- Pd
From: Mark Conrad on 22 Jul 2010 11:01 In article <1jm0zy1.1pvu3d71z0zpcN%peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid>, Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > You still think brute force is the only way to > solve problems. Kind of, yes, like that situation near the end of WW2, where Einstein's friend, I forget his name, alerted Einstein to the fact that German scientists had already achieved sustained nuclear fission, so it was just a matter of time before they would have a working atomic bomb. That motivated Einstein to write his letter to our President at the time, Franklin D. Roosevelt, who promptly took the brute force approach of starting the "Manhatten Project" in the middle of the southwestern desert of the USA , building an entire city there, where they had tight control of everything anywhere near that area. The corralled every scientist who could add 2 + 2, threw tremendous amounts of money at the project, and managed to beat the Germans to the punch. The "brute force" approach. Einstein, being a pacifist, bitterly regretted writting that letter when he saw the result in Japan. Turned out it did not make much difference to the war in Europe, however we did not know how fast that would progress, at the time we started the Manhatten Project. The Germans could have sold their technology to the highest bidder, which at that time would likely be the Russians. So we would defeat one dictator, only to fall victim to another, where we could _all_ enjoy the rewards of working on a collective farm, had we taken the timid approach that some Europeans might advocate. > But your breed are dying off. > John Wayne's dead, you know. But his spirit is not dead over here, even among our youngsters, who still believe in personal innovation, entrepreneurship, and keeping one's own money, a concept foreign to Europeans who prefer to pay a nanny government to take care of all the lazy people in their society. Over here, lazy people starve to death, it improves our gene pool. Different strokes for different folks, we prefer as little central government as possible, in our hair. Next time you Brits get into trouble, say from Iran nuking you, we will charge in and save you again, guns a blazing. S-a-d-d-l-e U-p , Mark-
From: Rowland McDonnell on 23 Jul 2010 20:18
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote: > > > we can not afford to > > do things like spending 2 trillion a year on health > > care for our citizens. > > You do anyway. Just the way you do it creates infinitely more suffering, > anxiety and injustice. Quite the worst system in the world. > > But then as everybody has known for years, the market is quite the worst > way to cost health. Because as a result, people die- in great numbers. Yes, because a socialised health care system is always more cost-effective. The market is the most cost effective way to make cars, but socialism is the most cost effective way to provide health care. The USA needs to stop bucking the trend and introduce more socialism - like its neighbours have, to the benefit of all their citizens. Like Europe has, to the benefit of its citizens. We are healthier in Europe because of socialism. We have more liberty - because of socialism. In Europe, we're not so stupid as to think you can't have a liberal democracy which includes elements of socialism. Many USAians are so blinkered and ignorant that they think `socialised health care' means `communist dictatorship'. In Europe, a more civilised part of the world, we know better. Socialised medicine simply means more health and wealth and liberty for all. But Americans don't want the health, wealth, and liberty benefits that socialised medicine brings, because it'd hurt the profits of the health care profiteers. We'd rather look after people than the profits of exploitative commerce in Europe, because we are more civilised. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |